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Thu 26th February 2015

Gender News Update

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 1:18 pm

Here’s a female psychologist suggesting that men should be complaining as much as women about being parents. She thinks men should be as self-centred as women rather than being grateful for their blessings and having a strong commmitment to their duties. Interesting stuff especially the readers’ comments. (more…)

White Fibbin’ at it again

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 8:59 am

Here is the latest email campaign from the anti-male hate speakers of the White Fibbin’ Campaign. Note the statement “..our mission to end men’s violence towards women”, making their sexist, unbalanced agenda clear.

Fri 20th February 2015

Book Launch of Murder that Wasn’t – the case of George Gwaze

Filed under: Law & Courts,Sex Abuse / CYF — JohnPotter @ 10:25 am

Last night we held the official launch for Felicity Goodyear-Smith’s new book: Murder that Wasn’t – the case of George Gwaze.

Felicity Goodyear-Smith at book launch of Murder that Wasn't

Felicity Goodyear-Smith at book launch of Murder that Wasn’t – the case of George Gwaze


Is the Ban on Using Force in Discipline Working?

Filed under: Boys / Youth / Education,Gender Politics,General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 9:32 am

The anti-smacking law (actually the anti-use-of-force-in-discipline law) was based largely on feminist ideology. The idea that male characteristics of size and strength should be allowed to be used to exert ‘power and control’ was anathema to feminists, and they projected their sense of injustice on to the matter of raising and disciplining children. State-sponsored sole parenthood often involved rejection of male influence in raising children and the anti-smacking law was an extension of this.

Thu 19th February 2015

Mojo Mathers MP Spreads False Propaganda

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 10:40 am

Sent via email to Mojo.Mathers@parliament.govt.nz
Dear Ms Mathers

In the context of debating the composition of the Intelligence Committee, you were quoted in the NZ Herald today as stating that “every day skilled women found themselves overlooked for jobs or promotion, or competing with men with far less experience and ability”.

Family Hero Falls Ill

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 10:10 am

19 February 2015


Ministry of Men’s Affairs spokesman Kerry Bevin says that many kiwi men and their families will be saddened by Jim Bagnall’s terminal prostate cancer. (more…)

Tue 17th February 2015

A Great loss to NZ

Filed under: General — triassic @ 12:04 pm

Celia Lashlie passed away today after suffering from cancer. She was a very wise woman and a great advocate in the education of raising healthy young males in our society. She will be sorely missed and I salute her for her brave stance in our matriachal ideologically driven society.

Four Yorkshiremen on Divorce

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 9:09 am

1. My ex got 90% of all assets after separation!

90%. Sheer luxury. Sheer bloody luxury.

2. I only got 5% and all the debts.

3. You guys don’t know how lucky you are.

All I got was me gumboots.

You guys just don’t know how lucky you are.

4. Gumboots. You got your gumboots.

I was kicked out of house, naked, with no clothes on.

It was middle of bloody winter …

1. Sorry to interrupt, but now that I have, I’m going to take advantage of that.

That’s nothing. Now I …

Put your one-up in the comments.

Sun 15th February 2015

Systematic Discrimination Against Fathers

Filed under: Gender Politics,General,Law & Courts — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 10:08 am

Unbelievable Duplicity Story number 73,456,864: “International tug-of-war in custody fight”. In order to pursue her own career, this mother deliberately abducted the daughter to the USA against the wishes of the girl’s father and denied the girl a meaningful relationship with the father for some years. She arranged a fake contact visit with the father to distract him from her real plan to leave the country, then took off with the child while the father waited to see his daughter. She then failed to honour agreements concerning returning the child to NZ. (more…)

Fri 13th February 2015

Fifty Shades of Grey

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 8:40 am

Source Article:

Lloyd, who engages with victims at the point where they require or have obtained a protection order against their alleged abusers, said the issue for the court was whether what took place was domestic violence.

“The legal argument is about whether there was domestic violence given there was consent,” she said.

“Well, how can you say whipping someone with canes and chains until they’re bleeding raw, is not violence?

“In the Family Court, when you’re looking at whether a protection order is needed, a judge must be satisfied there has been domestic violence. It doesn’t mention consent.”

Conservative Christian lobby group Family First NZ this week called for the public to boycott the film and donate the admission fee to a local women’s refuge.

For anyone who is old enough to remember the railing against the likes of the musical ‘Hair’ and the film ‘Last Tango in Paris’ by the religious sector of the community, this becomes interesting reading.

If you take away the circumstances that surround this argument, and put it between the sheets generally, it becomes a case of even though there was consent, the manner of sexual participation may or may not be domestic violence depending on a ruling from the Family Court (by examination of a woman’s evidence) when a protection order is applied for.

There’s something to think about.

Wed 11th February 2015

Is Valentines all about women?

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 9:53 am

First what’s it all about?

As much as I am a little cautious about referring to Wikipedia, this seems reasonable enough.

There is no evidence of any link between St. Valentine’s Day and the rites of the ancient Roman festival, despite many claims by many authors.[15][37][notes 1] The celebration of Saint Valentine did not have any romantic connotations until Chaucer’s poetry about “Valentines” in the 14th century.[21] Popular modern sources claim links to unspecified Greco-Roman February holidays alleged to be devoted to fertility and love to St. Valentine’s Day, but prior to Chaucer in the 14th century, there were no links between the Saints named Valentinus and romantic love.[21] Earlier links as described above were focused on sacrifice rather than romantic love. In the ancient Athenian calendar the period between mid-January and mid-February was the month of Gamelion, dedicated to the sacred marriage of Zeus and Hera.

Have the boys been conned here?

I always felt this Valentine’s stuff was a bit of a one way street. I am yet to meet a bloke that said, he’d got a valentine out of the blue from some female – or I am just the unlucky one here? (more…)

Mon 9th February 2015

UK Barrister: Rape and Consent

Filed under: Gender Politics,Law & Courts,Sex Abuse / CYF — Pete @ 9:23 pm

Barrister David Osborne caused outrage with his blog She was gagging for it (the blog has been changed due to public outrage, but the original is included below) where he went as far as an wrote:

I have a very simple solution which I hope you will agree is fair. If the complainant (I do not refer to her as the victim) was under the influence of alcohol or drugs, or both, when she was “raped’, this provides the accused with a complete defence. End of story and a victory for fairness, moderation and common sense!

While I disagree with this particular solution, it must be seen in the context of the debate (if there ever were one). So on the one hand we have David Osborn’s “solution” and on the other the feminists who are basically demanding – so far almost unopposed – that the definition of rape should include “sexual activities with a woman who is drugged or drunk“. This solution is every bit as misandristic as Osborn’s is misogynistic. If only for the reason of bringing some balance into the debate, I applaud him for the courage to write these things.

The original blog follows:

I have been following the latest machinations over rape allegations with some interest, as they have serious consequences for all red-bloodied males who are out on the rut. For the past ten years or more, a politically driven agenda has been thrust down the throats of court users about the deplorably low percentage of rape allegations that lead to conviction, and successive governments have been enjoined to do something about it.

My considerable experience tells me that there are basically two defences to an allegation of rape: either “it wasn’t me gov”, or “she was gagging for it”. It is also correct in my own experience that most of those accused of rape are acquitted, not simply as a result of the brilliance of my advocacy, but because the jury did not believe beyond a reasonable doubt that the victim did not consent.

Into this squirming sack of grubby emotions steps Ms. Alison Saunders, who is apparently the Director of Public Prosecutions, so she should know better. And is it just me, or are women taking over the world? And is it just me, or do you share my dislike for the prefix “Ms’? It’s all to do with political correctness, or so they say, but speaking for my wife, and I suspect millions of other wives, when she agreed to marry me, convention dictated that she took my name and became Mrs. Osborne. She does not wish to be referred to as Ms. Osborne, nor does she wish to be known as my partner. It’s insulting!

Anyway, back to Ms. Saunders and her camp followers. She has decided, or rather it has been decided for her, that anybody who makes an allegation of rape must be believed, and everything possible in the trial process must be bent towards the conviction of the accused. Rape trials from now on are no longer to be prosecution led, but conviction led, and when you add into the mix that prison sentences for rape are getting longer and longer, the opportunities for a serious miscarriage of justice are self-evident. Or should that be “ms.carriage’?

Sarah Vine, or more properly Ms. Sarah Vine the journalist, summed up the feelings not just of red-bloodied males but also the legions of fair minded people. Like me, she deplores the so-called “vagenda’, the all men are rapists brigade advanced by vocal feministas like Harriet Harman and the “femi-fascist’ twitter mob who increasingly seem to hold sway in public policy. Predictably, Ms. Harman, and I use that form of address advisedly, replied to Ms. Vine’s comments with the usual “feminista’ clichés, defending Ms. Saunders for trying to ensure that victims of rape get justice. Gawd help us!

I have always found it distasteful and unattractive the suggestion that as the victim was blind drunk she therefore unable to give her consent to sex, or more to the point, she gave her consent which she would not have given had she been sober. In my book, consent is consent, blind drunk or otherwise, and regret after the event cannot make it rape as Ms. Saunders and Ms. Harman seem to be advocating. Save us from the Mssss!

I have a very simple solution which I hope you will agree is fair. If the complainant (I do not refer to her as the victim) was under the influence of alcohol or drugs, or both, when she was “raped’, this provides the accused with a complete defence. End of story and a victory for fairness, moderation and common sense!

Sun 8th February 2015

Men seen as Actors – Women seen as Acted Upon

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 9:07 am

A short video clip to show why men are treated poorly. It details why some men choose to end their lives.

Fri 6th February 2015

Isn’t this just typical NZ reporting ….

Filed under: General — golfa @ 5:36 pm


Nowhere in this “report” does it say the attacker was a girl. Oh, it says that the victim was a girl, but the gender of the attacker is conveniently omitted throughout. Sexist ? You betcha !

Thu 5th February 2015

Update – Family court Revamp part 3

Filed under: General — nzleagle @ 7:59 pm

Since April 2014 I have been in the system of the New Family court system. my previous posts – http://menz.org.nz/2014/family-court-revamp-part-2

So my last update was up till about the 9th of December, My ex finally accepted a mediation date for the 13th of January 2015. Since one of the primary reasons for restarting the proceedings was to try and get contact for Christmas, I had the court confirm that the current parenting order (from 2010) was still enforceable, and then messaged my ex saying that since she cant have mediation till middle of January I will be forced to enforce the order, so if she could have my son available for the dates as per the order that would be great. I also mentioned to her that if she doesn’t agree either organize a mediation date for before Christmas, or I will be forced to enforce it.

She asked me for the mediators number, and he was not available, she said she would call the following day. 2 days later I have a bailif on my door step serving me with a Without notice application to vary the parenting order, essentially preventing me from enforcing the order, in her application she told the court that I had asked for contact outside the order, and a number of other stretches of the truth and unfactual information. and as a result it was approved. With contact be on agreement, so I text my ex asking when she sees contact occurring, and never got a response.

Come the 13th of January, I had travled from Auckland to Wellington, and was driving up to Palmerston north about 4 hours before the mediation date, when I recieved a phone call from the mediator saying that my ex had pulled out as she had a workplace injury that resulted in a concussion before Christmas. The mediator tried to work something out on the phone, but my ex couldnt even make herself avalible during the time period the mediation was supposed to be.

Thankfully as a result of her without notice application a directions conference was set down for the 4th of Febuary.

At the directions conference the Judge pretty much ripped into the Lawyer for child and Lawyer for my ex asking why contact hasnt been able to be sorted, and it appears to be a straight forward case. So we now have to have a round table meeting within 2 weeks, if no agreement is reached, we are to file detailed proposals for contact and care, and she will either make a decision based on those proposals and evidence previously filed, or set down a hearing.

I also wrote to MP’s about the time frames for the Family Dispute Resolution to occur, and received a response from Amy Adams yesterday stating that the provider contracts specify 35 days from application to mediation occurring. and they will be working with providers to ensure this happens. However delays are inevitable if people need extra time for the prep etc…

Wed 4th February 2015

George Gwaze murder case – Radio NZ Interview

Filed under: Law & Courts,Sex Abuse / CYF — JohnPotter @ 1:22 pm

Felicity Goodyear-Smith was interviewed by Kathryn Ryan on National Radio’s programme Nine to Noon this morning about her new book Murder that wasn’t – the case of George Gwaze.

Listen here:
Miscarriage of justice – the George Gwaze murder case

GP and forensic physician, Professor Felicity Goodyear-Smith, on her fresh investigation of the George Gwaze murder case – and why she says the crown got it wrong.

Order Murder that Wasn’t here:


Tue 3rd February 2015

UNCROC report by MOJ

Filed under: General — mopardad @ 7:39 am

Hey all, I havent seen this mentioned here so am wondering who is following this, attending the HRC workshops and who will be making a “submission” on the MOJ’s report that it will submit to the UN. I began reading it last night, up to about page 30 and have already picked up 30 points that are in direct contradiction of the treatment of how me, my child and our family have been treated by the MOJ, the FC, the NZ Judiciary and the outcomes of FC proceedings that have seen our bond destroyed and the actual DV and perjury committed by the mother of the child being ignored by the entire government which not surprisingly portrays its handling of Childrens rights in a vastly different light. I believe this is an opportunity for those of us who have had our rights as parents and guardians unlawfully taken from us, as well as our childrens rights being taken from them, to have a voice and make the failings of the MOJ FC and NZ Judiciary more publicly known. I will certainly be voicing the facts in regards to the failings of those involved in our proceedings and those in government who have demonstrated they really dont give 2 f%^ks. If people can file a submission I would be keen to compile them and issue a paper regarding the FC’s failings. THIS IS OUR GREATEST OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD YET!!!!

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