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Sun 29th May 2016


Filed under: General,Law & Courts — sharingiscaring @ 6:40 pm

Hi Dads,

There is hope.

1154 days since my wife absconded and abducted my son to another man, full custody and care and control of my (nearly) 4 year old son was given to me by the Court.

To stay in the struggle to win my son, I lost my daughter, my company, my airplane, all my money, house, car, furniture and possessions, became unemployed for 9 months, and have fallen some $61,000 into debt.

Without the support of many, including those here on this forum it would have been impossible to continue. Thank you all.

Please continue to support each other.
Support is invaluable.

Strength for today, Bright Hope for tomorrow.
Yours faithfully,
Paul and Air

Suicide Rate May Be Three Times Greater Than Recorded

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 5:11 pm

According to this article in the NZ Herald, coroners only rule suicide when it’s very clear the person intended to take ‘their’ own life. Otherwise, deaths are classified in a different category such as ‘accident’, or the cause will go down as undetermined, an ‘open verdict’.

Of course, the Herald’s article failed completely to mention the gender aspect of suicides or what three times the rate would mean for already huge male suicide rates. This is the same newspaper that recently published a series of articles on domestic violence as if such violence almost exclusively happens to women by men (when in fact non-partner domestic violence happens much more to men and when all domestic violence is included men suffer about 45% of it and women 55%). So when it comes to domestic violence that marginally affects women more than men, the Herald specifically quotes female victim statistics and treats the issue as mainly a problem affecting women, whereas for suicide that overwhelmingly affects men, no mention of gender is considered important. Typical feminist sexism and duplicity.

Suicide – A Male Mental Health Problem

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 12:57 am


Saturdays Stuff article focused on suicide. In particular a 10 year old boy whom I won’t mention here. The article written by Laura Walters did not have a comment area.

One graph compared male to female suicides. In any given year male suicides each year are say 400+ while female suicides are about the 140 mark. There was no comment in the article about this.

So why do men kill themselves at a rate of 3 to 1.

The government says all suicide is a mental health matter. It comes under the ministry of health.

I see it as men have less protection than woman under the law and are treated more harshly.

• Men don’t have a say if their female partner wants to abort their unborn baby.
• If a man is bashed by his female partner. The man is usually arrested and not allowed to return to his own home.
• Men are much more likely to be barred from seeing their children if they are separated from their female partner.
• Men have their names released in the media if on trial for rape. Even sometimes before charges are laid.
• It is usually a man who loses much of his hard earned accumulated wealth in a divorce.
• It is usually a man who has to pay the woman child maintenance and the woman who does not have to work. On this point I could add that the ex female partner may be seeing a new man while the first man has to pay for it.
• If a man commits a crime his sentence can be twice or three times that of a womans.
• If a woman destroys a mans life by lying about being raped and she is found guilty. She is just usually charged with wasting police time or receives a very low penalty.
• If a man is found not guilty of rape he is likely to still, lose his job, his partner, family, friends, house (trying to pay for a defense), his savings, his future. He will have a mark against him and will not be able to apply for some types of jobs. There is no compensation for men being found not guilty of rape but there is compensation for a woman regardless if the man was found guilty or not. You just have to start from zero again.

These are just a few examples. I’m sure you can think of a few more.

And in recent days we witness a new law being drafted that will allow a woman to murder a man in his sleep if they think he may harm them.

So the question is….. Is suicide a male mental health problem?

I think suicide is not a male mental health problem. It is an abuse or unfairness problem. “It is a lets not consider the man.” Its a lets make it hard, unlikely or just plain impossible for a man to recover his life. It is a lets make the man pay for everything. Lets cut him down and destroy him. Even when he is not guilty. Or his ex wife just does not want him in his children’s life anymore because it may complicate her life or she just wants to get at him. Lets let the man watch his children being raised by another man. Yes that will get him really good.

It is the grief, anguish, heartache and distress caused by unequal laws and the unrealistic burdens placed on men who are often the victims but are never seen as such.

Men don’t need a 0800 phone number to call if they feel like killing themselves. They just need fairness and the be treated reasonably and justly.

But that is not going to happen anytime soon. What is going to happen is there are thousands of men going though crap right now and 400 of them are going to kill themselves over the next 12 months because they don’t want to live an unhappy life with no chance of getting ahead.

Thu 26th May 2016

You don’t need academia to be a Professor if the subject is Feminism!

Filed under: General — triassic @ 9:31 pm

Angelina Jolie Pitt will be joining the London School of Economics as a visiting professor to teach a new master’s degree course.

Jolie Pitt—an actress, director, and currently the UNHCR’s Special Envoy—is one of four new visiting professors who will contribute to the master’s program run by the Centre for Women, Peace and Security, which the university claims to be the first of its kind internationally. The course will build strategies to combat sexual violence in conflict.

As well as delivering guest lectures to students in the autumn of 2016, Jolie Pitt will be running workshops, public events, and carrying out her own research.

WOW! Angelina Jolie is an undergraduate who did not even complete a degree. However, who needs a degree to teach when the subject is a belief system? A belief that women are paid less than men. A belief that DV is only a male to female issue, and so on. That is why so many religious teachers/preachers have no degrees or in fact any higher education at all. What matters most is just that you believe what you preach. No empirical evidence just a lot of clap trap and emotion required. In my opinion ‘Gender Studies’ is a sham and the London School of Economics, by employing Jolie, has the same credibility as David X. Li and his Gaussian Copula function

Tue 24th May 2016

Smoke, mirrors and millions of dollars going astray

Filed under: General — realkiwi @ 12:01 pm

The article here by a woman in OZ tells a story I’ve suspected for years…

Smoke, Mirrors And Violence Against Women

It doesn’t even start on the millions spent in Womens refuges, nor does it count the amounts spent on or by maternity wards, midwives, plunket and CYFs actively excluding fathers from their childrens lives, mainly based on the myths that are propagated by the likes of white ribbon…

Does anyone have the time to build a table of money spent on DV in NZ?
I’m really keen to help present the amounts spent excluding dads…

Sat 21st May 2016

Calling out False allegations of rape

Filed under: General — JohnBrett @ 2:22 pm

A new study shows how pseudo-victims’ claims differ to those of true victims.

Last week, the Irish Independent reported that a former nun named Nora Wall, who was wrongfully convicted of rape and sentenced to life imprisonment in 1999, would receive over €500,000 in compensation.

Wall’s case was especially shocking, because the prosecution used a witness whom the Director of Public Prosecutions had said should not be called. Yet the prosecution went ahead and called the witness, whose fabricated tale succeeded in convicting Wall.

In one sense, Wall was fortunate. She had only served four days of her sentence, when she was released on bail. The witness admitted lying. In 2005, the Court of Criminal Appeal certified that Wall’s conviction was a miscarriage of justice, opening the way for a damages action against the state.

Wall is not the only nun to be falsely accused. Sr Domenica Ritchie is a 73-year-old Anglican nun, who won acclaim for her work in the hospice movement. She was awarded the OBE in 2006. Yet in 2013, when Savile mania was at its height, two women accused her of indecently assaulting them in Oxford in the 1970s. They did not go to the police but, as often happens, an officious third party reported their claims. Sr Domenica was arrested, but in 2014 the Crown Prosecution Service decided that there was no basis for charging her.

Why do some people make false allegations, which wreak such havoc in the lives of innocent people? Filing false vice reports, a recent Dutch study published in April this year, offers some much-needed clarity. Motives for false allegations include revenge, attention-seeking and compensation.

The authors (André De Zutter, Robert Horselenberg and Peter van Koppen) undertook a bold piece of research. They decided to commission false allegations of rape, and compare them with victims’ accounts in real cases, where men had been convicted. ‘The trust of the innocent is the liar’s most useful tool’, they say, quoting from Stephen King’s Needful Things.

They propose a new theory of fabricated rape. Their hypothesis is that pseudo-victims have to construct stories based on their own experiences and beliefs about rape. They will construct a stereotypical story that does not resemble a true rape. They will tend to rely on representations of rape in news media, which tended to be biased and often lack details. Typically, the media cover sensational and atypical rapes.

A pseudo-victim will also likely create a rapist whose conduct does not fit typical offender categories. In brief: the four typical rapist profiles are ‘opportunist, pervasively angry, sexual, and vindictive’. Typical rapist behaviours can include such things as attempts at pseudo-intimacy, or stealing from the victim. These sorts of behaviour are often absent from media reports of rape. By contrast, the proportion of rape stereotypes is typically higher in false allegations of rape.

So how do false and true allegations of rape differ? Typically the false report will provide a concise story with little details. The research used a control group (consisting of likely true allegations) and two experimental groups where participants were invited to invent a rape accusation. The study used 187 variables (specific rapist behaviours) to test the veracity of the stories it collected.

The cohort comprised 65 allegations, of which 30 were likely true and 35 likely false. Half of the false category were given three days to prepare their story, while the rest were given 30 minutes. Participants were screened for having experienced unpleasant sexual encounters: those who had were excluded from the study, as were true rape victims. The participants who were accepted were then interviewed using the same protocol as that used with an actual complainant in a Dutch police unit.

The results were both instructive and intriguing. True victims were twice as likely to give details – and give them spontaneously – than pseudo-victims. True victims described a lot of verbal interaction with their rapist, most of which fitted the rapist profiles mentioned earlier (eg, sadistic rapists were insulting). They also described a wide variety of sexual acts and positions. True victims engaged in evidence-conserving activities (such as not showering), while pseudo-victims did the opposite.

The authors conclude that four main characteristics of false allegations stand out. First, the alleged rape is always swift – almost all cases were completed in less than 15 minutes. Second, the pseudo-victim is passive, and their narrative does not include a variety of sexual acts. Third, false allegations mostly include instrumental violence, and almost no expressive violence (eg, unnecessary hurting during sex). ‘False complainants seem to be aware that it is the era of forensic evidence. Bruises and scratches without foreign DNA might put their credibility on the line.’ Finally, pseudo-victims offer a more detailed description of their attacker’s personal appearance than real ones do. For some reason, false complainants described the nose of the fabricated offender more than genuine victims.

Anything that can assist in screening out false complaints of sex crime is of great importance. No one benefits when the innocent are wrongly accused. The present problem in Britain is that police and prosecutors have been captured by the believe-the-victim mindset. Seeking out sex criminals – especially elderly ones (and sometimes even dead ones) – has become a grotesque 21st-century illustration of Parkinson’s Law – that a bureaucracy will generate enough work to keep itself ‘busy’ and to justify its continued existence.

One defence lawyer has said that 70 per cent of cases in Crown Courts now are sex cases. The CPS (65 per cent of whose workforce is female) evidently has no concept of age discrimination. It zealously prosecutes offenders ranging in age from 12 to 101. This is madness. It has nothing to do with the public interest. Britain’s prisons are overcrowded, and increasingly unsafe.

So what’s to be done? The police need to be more rigorous in their questioning of complainants. In particular, adult complainants should not be treated like tender youngsters. It is troubling to learn that in a recent case in Cirencester, which collapsed on the first day of trial, the policeman in charge was a confidant of the complainant, even interviewing her in her bedroom. Second, the CPS must drop their biased outlook, which assumes that all complainants are victims. Its Toolkit for Prosecutors on Violence Against Women and Girls Cases Involving a Vulnerable Victim is typical of this mindset. The eight-page document uses the word ‘victim’ 39 times, and ‘victims’ nine times. Both agencies need to acquire some objectivity, instead of acting as allies of our current victim culture. And they must stop being the useful tools of those who make false allegations.

Barbara Hewson is a barrister. Her views here are personal.

Another embarrassing collusion deprives a dad in NZ

Filed under: General — realkiwi @ 11:51 am

Admittedly a foreign diplomat, none the less a Dad whose children were in NZ has been deprived of his rights due to a collusion between the police and the family court….


Mon 16th May 2016

The Tide is Turning

Filed under: Domestic Violence,Gender Politics,General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 8:26 pm

The population of NZ is becoming much better informed and aware of the b.s. that has been driving gender relations and law for 5 decades now. Occasional articles are starting to appear using reason and fact to challenge the bias, hyperbole and falsehood spread by feminists. Whereas even five years ago many readers’ comments had clearly swallowed the feminist lines and dissenting comments were rare, a large proportion of comments now are seeing what we here have long seen. The eyes of the nation are beginning to open and once that happens it becomes difficult to keep avoiding the truth.
This article today was an example, by Matt Heath discussing some of the impacts of male-bashing and anti-male indoctrination especially of women. Just read the comments, many men and even a few women recognizing the issues.

The politicians are still well behind the 8-ball but we sense they are starting to watch their step a bit. Judith Collins on TV1 News last night was in Europe checking out some of their approaches to family violence, and she was very careful to talk about ‘family members’ and other gender neutral terms in discussing the matter.

The Law Commission is clearly well out of touch, still heavily brainwashed by White Knight Peter Boshier and his fan club of man-haters. Their latest travesty will be but one of many feminist atrocities in their retreat. They will leave as many land mines and cause as much harm as possible in their anger at having the truth forced on them.

Keep up the good work.

Sun 15th May 2016

Family violence victims who kill abusers should have self-defence claim: Law Commission

Filed under: General — JohnBrett @ 11:56 am

Victims of family violence who kill their abusers should be able to claim self-defence more easily, the Law Commission says.

The commission’s report on family violence laws, requested by the Government, has recommended lowering the threshold for self-defence to help women who “have endured years of trauma and abuse”.

In its report, the Law Commission said New Zealand had the highest reported rate of family violence in the developed world.
Justice Minister Amy Adams says the Law Commission’s recommendation would be “a significant departure” from current laws.

Justice Minister Amy Adams says the Law Commission’s recommendation would be “a significant departure” from current laws.

The commission has recommended changing the law to state that self-defence can apply when a person is responding to family violence – even when the threat is not “imminent”, as currently must be the case.

* New family violence offences considered
* ‘Underbelly of abuse’ in NZ
* Govt puts microscope on ‘horrific’ domestic violence rates
* Domestic violence victims need more support
* Amy Adams: We can turn the tide on family violence
* Outdated attitudes not helping family violence victims – report

Lead commissioner Dr Wayne Mapp said there were some “deeply-held myths” about family violence, such as that those being abused could simply walk away.
Family violence victims who kill their abusers are often defending themselves after “years of trauma and abuse”, the Law …

Family violence victims who kill their abusers are often defending themselves after “years of trauma and abuse”, the Law Commission says.

“The reality is family violence in many cases is part of an ongoing, sustained, vicious pattern of violence that traps the person.

“That entrapment means she cannot leave, and that then means she ultimately, for fear of her life, or that of her children, sees no other way out but to defend herself with lethal force.”

Mapp said New Zealand’s self-defence laws were “out of step” with countries like the UK and Australia, and there was “ample evidence” that women convicted here of manslaughter or murder should have been acquitted for acting in self defence due to family violence.

He did not believe changing the law would lead to people using family violence as an excuse for premeditated murder, saying it would be up to juries to decide whether a self-defence claim was believable.
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The law change could allow a woman to kill her sleeping partner and claim self-defence, if she made a “believable” case of family violence.

“Such a claim would only be successful if it existed in the context of a sustained long period of family violence, and if you didn’t do that then, the next thing going to happen to you is that you were going to be killed instead.”


Other recommendations in the report were:

* Allowing a broader range of evidence about family violence to support claims of self-defence.

* Ensuring “consistent consideration” of a history of family violence as a mitigating factor during sentencing.

* Continuing to educate judges, prosecutors and defence lawyers about family violence.

* Reviewing the “three strikes” law and how it affects victims of family violence.

Women’s Refuge New Zealand chief executive Ange Jury said the self-defence proposal was “a good move forward”, given what victims of family violence had to deal with.

“It’s been likened to a form of terrorism, and I don’t think that’s going too far…unless you’ve actually been there, I don’t think anyone can know what that feels like.”

However, Jury said the most important recommendation was educating those in the justice system about the nature of family violence.

“Unless the people administering the law have a really good, sound understanding of what domestic violence is, what it looks like, what it does, it’s not going to be administered properly anyway.”


Justice Minister Amy Adams said she welcomed the Law Commission’s “comprehensive” report, which the Government had asked it to prioritise.

“A terrible consequence of family violence is that some victims are driven to killing their abusers – as a result of often years of abuse.”

Adams said the Law Commission’s proposals would be “a significant departure” from the current laws, and would need “careful thought and discussion”.

“We have to be incredibly careful – letting someone off killing another human being is an incredibly serious thing to do.”

The recommendations would be considered as part of the Government’s work on family violence, she said.


The Law Commission has identified a number of New Zealand cases where victims of family violence who killed their abusers, including:

* Amanda Taitapanui: The 29-year-old was sentenced to 12 months of home detention in April for manslaughter after fatally stabbing her partner Mura Dean Tagatauli in the leg. A police summary about the killing said the couple had an “extensive family violence history”.

* Dale Wickham: In 2010, the 62-year-old was sentenced to 12 months home detention for manslaughter after killing her husband John Wickham. Her lawyer said at trial Wickham had put up with years of abuse from her husband, who had made threats to kill her by hitting her with a brick and putting her body in the pool to cover it up.

* Gay Oakes: In 1995, Oakes received a life sentence for murder after poisoning her partner Doug Gardner and burying him in the garden of their Christchurch home. Oakes was furious at the abuse he meted out to her and their children, but a partial defence of provocation failed at her trial.

Stuff article

Mon 9th May 2016

Academic Records when Child is in another Country

Filed under: Gender Politics,General,Law & Courts — Had_Enough @ 5:35 pm


My daughter is currently living in Canada with her mother and has dual Canadian/New Zealand citizenship. She’s under 18 and is still at school. I am concerned about her welfare and one of the few ways I have of keeping tabs on her is to try and build a relationship with her school. Last year I was given (by email) some of her academic records by her teacher but the school seems very reluctant to give me any more academic records or any information about my daughter other than confirming that she’s still attending the school.

URGENT : Court Wednesday : How to Access Family Law Precedents

Filed under: General — sharingiscaring @ 12:39 am

Hi guys,

Have Court on Wednesday 11.5.16.

Need to provide the Court with print outs of the decisions/orders made by the Court in the following cases. How can I find them please to print as a pdf to show the Court?

Sun 8th May 2016

NZ Herald’s White Knight Series on Family Violence

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 2:03 pm

Those who haven’t read the NZ Herald over recent days may have missed its ongoing series on family violence. It’s typical misandry and misinformation, for example in yesterday’s editorial. The first case used to discuss NZ family violence was of Emily Longley who actually was murdered in England by an Englishman.

What’s really interesting though is the high state of awareness and criticism in the readers’ comments of the Heralds’ misandry and duplicity. It’s incredible that neither the media nor our politicians are yet tuning in to the growing wave of public sentiment against the feminist ideology and propaganda we have been subject to for so long.

We encourage readers to contribute to the comments on the Herald’s articles.

‘Mercy’ Sentence for Female Offender

Filed under: Domestic Violence,Gender Politics,General,Law & Courts — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 1:40 pm

This news article was posted by Kumar as a reply under a recent thread but we agree with Allan Harvey that it deserves its own thread so here it is. A woman planned and attempted to murder her three children and white knight Justice Paul Heath rode to her rescue, going to great lengths to explain and justify his chivalry. She was sentenced to two years ‘intensive supervision’, a helping sentence that will require her to attend some counselling and to report to a probation officer initially once a week then reducing. Such a sentence does not oblige her to cooperate with treatment, take medication as directed or anything much else. This pussy pass might seem extraordinary for such serious offending but it’s actually quite ordinary when it comes to female offenders. (more…)

Wed 4th May 2016

A Gays view of feminism

Filed under: General — triassic @ 6:26 pm

This interview on the Ruben Report states many of the facts we mention here on this site.

However, what I found most interesting is that the messenger is gay …..oh what a lovely articulate way Milo delivers his points.

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