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Timeline for Men to catch up

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 12:39 pm Tue 18th September 2018

Each time a new voice appears in the room it is often without any knowledge of what has happened before their arrival. There is always the awakening that history is part of where ever we are now.

There is often some distance between personal views and opinions and respective actions.

We could create a Timeline of events and links.

Comment on dates and events you are aware of, activities by groups, specific achievements that might develop the resource.

See our Timeline of Remembrance

2000

September

Michael Green QC (Aust) Visits NZ

2017

September 18 – Self Immolation at Parliament

2019

10 Responses to “Timeline for Men to catch up”

  1. mama says:

    2018 September 18 – Asked Movember NZ to hold concert this Summer to UP the ISSUES, sorry, Raise Awareness for Men, show a United Front at least.

  2. mama says:

    2018 – 19 September – Exert from philosophy behind conference 21 September 2018

    When children are involved, intimate partner violence is understood as conceptually distinct from any abuse of the children. This paper suggests that it would be more accurate to conceptualise intimate partner violence as a form of social entrapment when investigating and describing the facts.

  3. mama says:

    2018 – Report on Fathers …Family First..Fathers Matter.

    Dads are dramatically
    more powerful and
    influential in helping
    their children develop
    a sense of care and
    concern toward others.

  4. Downunder says:

    If you have idle time Kiwi Keith you could contribute to the acknowledgement of the tryers.

  5. Kiwi Keith says:

    Downunder: – and how do you think this can be accomplished on this site – and has not already been done to death for decades? I have noticed the energy sapping knockers on this site and I class you as perhaps the prime knocker. No, I’m not going to take your bait for an epic round of EGO-WRESTLING. I am sure something new will happen elsewhere. Do you realise that whenever I posted in the past, I did so knowing you could be counted on to negatively respond in quick order. You never failed in that. When Audi turned up I knew he would be beaten up and this appears to have come true. Downunder – you probably have valuable knowledge and experience, but you won’t live for ever. Welcome the new blood – help those in need today. Actually I went away from this site long ago. I just looked in to see what the activity level was – ie: how many have been put-off participating. I couls have helped Palmie if he requested practical support etc, but the way this site works, it turned out impossible for me to make contact with him and he with me. So there is no practical justification for being here.

  6. Boonie says:

    Your treasured Audi is from the Family Court Kiwi Keith.

    Those here did an excellent job of entertaining the idiot and his agenda on the basis of a fair debate even though that was somewhat beyond him.

    Hopeful bystanders such as yourself become collateral damage and in your innocence become aggressive at what you perceive didn’t happen.

  7. Murray Bacon says:

    Comments 4, 5 and 6 all seem to contain some sarcasm and put downs. I admit I don’t understand why, so I can only comment that these affects appear to be more of a barrier to communication and participation, than constructive and inviting emotions?
    I am not saying that these comments are mainly negative, just that they contain some negatives that don’t seem to be aimed at encouraging constructive participation.
    Is it worth working to be more positive?
    I suggest that it is, but I am open to being corrected.
    Some say – wounded soldiers.
    But that is essentially an excuse (for collective failure).
    We should be working together, to achieve useful support, for the injured among us.

  8. Paul Catton says:

    @6 “Your treasured Audi is from the Family Court Kiwi Keith.

    Those here did an excellent job of entertaining the idiot and his agenda on the basis of a fair debate even though that was somewhat beyond him.

    Hopeful bystanders such as yourself become collateral damage and in your innocence become aggressive at what you perceive didn’t happen.”

    Audi was far from being “an idiot”, neither, would probably like to be be thought of as “a treasure”.
    He appeared “in person” to be a decent human being, he took issue with specific underhand procedures being exercised by practitioners within the umbrella of “Family Court” jurisdiction.

    Boonie.
    Are you saying he was in fact a “stooge implant”, being employed by the Family Court? Y/N.

    And if so for what purpose? Please elaborate.

    My “file case” is for all intents and purposes, resolved from 13 years ago with the “Family Court”.
    They had to refer my final issue “Suspension of Child Support”, which was successfully applied for, however it did/does need to be resolved as suspensions are time-framed.
    I was instructed by Family Court to resolve it. I advised it was their problem

    They do not have the balls to provide total finality in respect of a liable parent forced to pay “Child Support When Children Have Been Abducted”.
    I.R.D spent a fortune getting lawyers from Wellington into the “High Court” for an opinion.
    All for a legislative debit of approx $150 but with significant repercussion.

    I can’t be a recipient of collateral damage, I mitigated for success which ended up being fair and balanced.

    I had tried knocking on “Hades” door, but “thankfully” at the time he wasn’t home, that was in my earliest introduction to “Systemic Abuse toward Gender Male within Family Court”.

    As Murray says, “We should be working together, to achieve useful support, even among the scathed upon us.

    Kindest regards
    Paul

  9. MurrayBacon says:

    Why Angry familycaught$ Fans Lash Out Online – or be happily furry?
    Why Angry Taylor Swift Fans Lash Out Online
    Fandom is all about community — even when it gets toxic
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    Some accused me of being bitter. One sarcastically thanked me for promoting the familycaught$. Another told me I couldn’t even “make the front page” (of what, I’m unsure) while familycaught$’s song shot to number one on the charts. (I will concede that familycaught$’s career is doing better than mine.) Several accused me of being sexist, and others were genuinely funny, like the one from the familycaught$ fan, also known as a Swifty, who said, “Sis she’s been with the same judge for 3 years. Your last date was a stained caughtorder and rejected out of time without notice application.” (I’ve been in a happy caught$ fight for nine years and, blessedly, no longer have a legal worker — just a paper file that I really hate.)
    ___________________________________________________________________________________________

    ______
    It isn’t that familycaught$ fans are unhinged lunatics, although you could argue they’re a little sensitive. Their behaviour is human, built on a very natural desire to belong and feel understood.
    For fandoms, the community is as important, or even more important, than the object of the fandom itself. That sense of community is one of the driving forces behind fandom. It’s also the main difference between fandom participants and fanship participants.

    Research conducted in 2010 found that fandom and fanship are two distinct, but related, modes of being. Fanship is more related to the object than the community, and delineates how much interest and attachment a fan has for the object, such as Taylor Swift. Fandom, on the other hand, is about how close to the community that has sprung up around the object a fan feels, and how important that community is to them.
    …….
    For fans, feeling part of a cohesive community can be really healthy. “Feeling a sense of connection with a fan interest and belonging to a group of fans is also related to better psychological well-being,” says Stephen Reysen, an associate professor of psychology and special education at Texas A&M University. “Having a supportive social network is often related to better psychological health.”

    His 2013 study looked at the psychological impact of belonging to the furry community and found that furries who engaged in the community, self-identified as furries, and accepted their furry affiliation, had a greater sense of well-being than those who didn’t. The strength and support gleaned from being part of a community helps participants cope with the alienation that members of stigmatized groups, such as furries or those who practice BDSM, often experience. A 2017 study supports these findings. It found that participating in the Harry Potter fandom helped members feel more secure in their sense of self.

    Fandom participants often find strong and long-lasting friendships in fan communities, according to Gayle Stever, an associate professor of social and behavioral sciences at SUNY Empire State College and author of the book The Psychology of Celebrity. “The bonds that are formed are lifelong and strong, and most often end up having little to do with the original artist who brought them together at all,” she says.
    ____________________________________________________________________________________
    https://onezero.medium.com/why-angry-taylor-swift-fans-lash-out-online-1f19e65b5864

  10. MurrayBacon says:

    Fandom participants often find strong and long-lasting friendships in familycaught$ fan communities, according to Gayle Stever, an associate professor of social and behavioral sciences at SUNY Empire State College and author of the book The Psychology of Celebrity. “The bonds that are formed are lifelong and strong, and most often end up having little to do with the original familycaught$ who brought them together at all,” she says.
    ___________________________________________________________________________________________
    So lets unite in our “support” for the familycaught$. We must remember carefully the women and men members who succumbed to familycaught$ driven suicide. We must remember appropriately the judges who broke the law to drive those suicides. We must work together, to support the remaining living zombies. (I am one.)
    MurrayBacon – uncontrollable axe murderer

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