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Gender Issues Around Covid

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 2:29 pm Fri 17th September 2021

I can understand the reluctance to discuss covid and the need to be careful about how this is discussed.

I’ve seen the situation censured twice recently.

However there are gender issues as we can see in the recent research I posted.

If your Covid comments aren’t focused and genuinely related to gender best they be taken somewhere else where they might be appreciated more.

When we look at the PSA there is probably still around the 80% female membership mark and I am well aware that they have a very charismatic approach to the PM – and follow happily with her instructions.

You will have noticed this week though how the PM has shifted her stance away from what the medical director is saying to fluffy rhetoric – that should tell you something.

In the male dominated industries particularly transport and construction male workers are very reliant on information from their employers.

You may have seen a recent video to the construction industry asking employers to be up to date with the changing landscape as there is an awareness Covid-19 may have long term effects on heavy industry.

We’ve reached a point, not in NZ but overseas where research is coming available within a time frame 6 – 12 months ahead of any research we could possibly have here in NZ.

Lancet for example has dropped its paywall until 31 December and invited the publication of any good research or professional opinion supporting the current need to have up-to-date information easily accessible.

I’m quite sure there will be more gender specific information but you will most likely need to be actively involved in searching through overseas media to find that.

That’s no excuse for baseless rhetoric because you disagree on some other basis.

Play the game. If you’ve got other gender specific information about Covid we should consider that.

25 Comments »

  1. There is this …..

    COVID-19 community fund to provide support for vulnerable women and girls

    Comment by golfa — Fri 17th September 2021 @ 2:36 pm

  2. Well done golfa, the link you provided is very much on-topic for this site.

    Any further comments must also have a gender angle to be appropriate here. Any claims about medical matters must have links to where the information originated.

    Please post any mis-information or conspiracy theories to FaceBook, where they belong.

    Comment by JohnPotter — Fri 17th September 2021 @ 4:56 pm

  3. #2 Thank you, John. I guess “vulnerable” men will have to be content with living under a bridge.

    Comment by golfa — Fri 17th September 2021 @ 5:09 pm

  4. You freaks still banging on about male superiority. Sad littlittle men.

    Comment by Angela Church — Fri 17th September 2021 @ 9:57 pm

  5. Don’t know what your reading Angela.
    I haven’t read any superiority comments.
    Where are they?
    Can you point them out?

    So the psychology of the comment.

    You freaks, references something about herself.
    Banging on, means frustration.
    Male superiority, is she wants that.

    She can’t get what she wants.

    Therefore we must be sad.
    Little means inferior.
    And male means, female.

    Sad inferior female.

    I may be wrong.
    But she gave me little to work with.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Fri 17th September 2021 @ 11:12 pm

  6. DJ Ward (and anybody else): please don’t feed the troll.

    Comment by JohnPotter — Sat 18th September 2021 @ 7:42 am

  7. Here is a relevant article.

    https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/2021/the-whole-truth-covid-19-vaccine/#/1204175043/if-you-care-about-your-gonads-get-vaccinated

    “Recently, rapper Nicki Minaj said her cousin’s friend in Trinidad and Tobago “became impotent” after receiving the vaccine. These claims have been widely rejected — studies have shown the mRNA Covid-19 vaccines appear safe for the male reproductive system.

    Contracting Covid-19, on the other hand, has been associated with male infertility and sexual dysfunction.“

    It also talks about risks for females that have been identified.
    So a good read on the subject.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Sun 26th September 2021 @ 8:52 pm

  8. I’ll just leave this here:

    Effect of Vaccinations on Covid-19 Deaths

    Comment by JohnPotter — Wed 13th October 2021 @ 1:01 pm

  9. At the peak of an outbreak the most vulnerable must be at risk.

    There is a coalface in there with deaths on both sides.

    Hopefully New Zealand has done it’s best to help the most at risk groups on both sides of that equation.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Wed 13th October 2021 @ 3:48 pm

  10. These comments are related to Covid and how both genders are affected. If you get vaccinated you will still catch Covid, and you will still transmit it. Delta is being spread by the vaccinated. A serious concern is the the injection will destroy 1/3rd of your natural immunity. If you are not injected and you catch Covid, there is a 99.9% chance you will survive without consequences. Importantly, you will never catch Covid again, unlike the vaccinated who will continue to get Covid. BTW, it is not a vaccine. The definition of ‘vaccine’ was changed to include the Covid injection. In Israel, all the people who are now hospitalised for Covid have been vaccinated. Note that Anthony Fauci was having this gain of function research carried out in the USA. This was discovered and terminated. He then moved his research to Wuhan. Now he promotes the vaccine! This is not about Covid. It is about the bringing in the social credit system and the full control the government will have over your life, if they get away with it.

    Comment by James — Mon 8th November 2021 @ 8:26 am

  11. Ok let’s look at what you have claimed.

    “If you get vaccinated you will still catch Covid, and you will still transmit it”
    Essentially true. And stated from the beginning, by the vaccine makers.

    “A serious concern is the the injection will destroy 1/3rd of your natural immunity”
    I have never seen evidence of that.
    If the natural, not learnt system was so damaged.
    All the vaccinated would be dead by now.
    At the very least, large numbers would get sick.
    The hospitals are not full of immune system failure, COVID injected patients.
    There is in fact, none.

    “If you are not injected and you catch Covid, there is a 99.9% chance you will survive without consequences.”
    That is complete nonsense.
    The infected vs dying rate, can get as high a 1 death per 100 infected.
    Virtually all, unvaccinated.
    The vaccinated, coping better and not needing hospitalisation.
    We aren’t even including, long COVID.
    A disease of the unvaccinated.

    “The definition of ‘vaccine’ was changed to include the Covid injection”
    What are you talking about.
    Was the dictionary changed.
    When, was that officially done.

    I am concerned about what you are reading.
    “It is about the bringing in the social credit system and the full control the government will have over your life, if they get away with it.”
    I have seen no country try.
    Your comment is imaginary, theory.
    Some obviously incorrect.
    With nothing that I’ve read, or seen backing it up.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Mon 8th November 2021 @ 9:24 am

  12. https://www.stuff.co.nz/life-style/love-sex/126913037/dating-in-the-covid19-pandemic-is-this-nzs-hot-vax-summer

    It’s an interesting possibility.
    That humans starved of sex, will overcompensate, when free again.
    Taking any option, rather than considered choices.
    Even breaking rules, so the possibility can happen.

    Men can react like that, when leaving celibate relationships.
    Making up for lost time, allowed to be human again.

    It’s possible some addictions to sex are affected.
    If a male was addicted to prostitution.
    Maybe he has had to go without, long enough.
    Acting as a circuit breaker, to the addiction.

    Or created some addictions.
    The male stuck at home, sexless.
    The internet, and it’s pornography, his escape.
    Over time, the material getting more perverse.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Mon 8th November 2021 @ 12:06 pm

  13. (“A serious concern is the the injection will destroy 1/3rd of your natural immunity”
    I have never seen evidence of that.
    If the natural, not learnt system was so damaged.)

    Not all immune systems are equal and that’s already known. If some people react more positively it’s just as likely that some don’t.

    But the difficulty in assessing that is whether the immune system was already compromised and that happens through various dependencies and diet.

    The specific claim of one third of your immune system I would call ridiculous but certainly not the possibility.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Mon 8th November 2021 @ 5:27 pm

  14. “The definition of ‘vaccine’ was changed to include the Covid injection”
    What are you talking about.
    Was the dictionary changed.
    When, was that officially done.

    In the US they did alter there medical definition of vaccine in the approval process of the Covid vaccines.

    I don’t know if that happened in NZ though.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Mon 8th November 2021 @ 5:37 pm

  15. This is a good article on immunization: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-19-delta-outbreak-rod-jackson-soon-everyone-in-nz-will-be-immunised-against-covid-19/O2DWYJUZ5RHQA7KXB4YSF2MYFU/

    Comment by Ministry of Men's Affairs — Mon 8th November 2021 @ 5:56 pm

  16. The definition of vaccine was changed because the covid injection is not a vaccine. for other issues, I am copying part of an article here

    In the early days of the “vaccine” rollout, we ran several articles discussing the risk-reward of the new mRNA jabs. Dr Sadaf Gilani, in particular, did good detailed write-ups on “absolute risk reduction”.
    To explain “absolute risk reduction” (ARR) in simple terms: if an unvaccinated person has a 10% chance of getting the disease, and a vaccinated person has a 1% chance, then the ARR for the vaccine is 9%.
    Of course, that’s just an example, the actual ARR for the Covid “vaccines” is nowhere near 9%:
    This is the absolute risk reduction for Pfizer/BioNtech (each group had over 18,000 people):
    Injection Group: 8/18,198 = 0.04%
    Placebo Group: 162/18,325 = 0.88%
    Absolute risk reduction = 0.84%
    From the “absolute risk reduction”, you can then calculate the “number needed to vaccinate” (NNTV). This is the rough number of people you need to inject in order to definitely prevent one case/death.
    To continue the example above, if your vaccine reduces the odds of infection from 10% to 1% (an ARR of 9%), you need to vaccinate eleven people to prevent one infection, giving you an NNTV of 11.
    Again, the NNTV of the Covid vaccines are much, much, MUCH higher than 11. Estimates range from between 88 and 700 to prevent a single case, and anything up to 100,000 to prevent one solitary death.
    And remember, all this data was for adults. Children are at a far lower risk from Covid – both in terms of hospitalisation and death. In the US, children aged 5-11 have a 99.992% chance of surviving “Covid” – so it naturally follows the NNTV for this group will be far, far higher than for adults.
    But, now that the FDA has approved Pfizer’s “vaccine” for emergency use on children aged 5-11, “far, far higher” is not good enough. We need to calculate an actual figure for the “number needed to vaccinate” in order to hypothetically protect one child from dying “with Covid”.
    Fortunately for us, someone else has already done it.
    Writing on his Substack, economist Toby Rodgers PhD has collated the numbers from Pfizer’s own trials, the FDA and the CDC and done a very thorough write up. You can read the whole thing here, we’ll just present you with some of the highlights:
    As of October 30, 2021, the CDC stated that 170 children ages 5 to 11 have died of COVID-19-related illness since the start of the pandemic. (That represents less than 0.1% of all coronavirus-related deaths nationwide even though children that age make up 8.7% of the U.S. population).
    The Pfizer mRNA shot only “works” for about 6 months (it increases risk in the first month, provides moderate protection in months 2 through 4 and then effectiveness begins to wane, which is why all of the FDA modeling only used a 6 month time-frame). So any modeling would have to be based on vaccine effectiveness in connection with the 57 (170/3) children who might otherwise have died of COVID-related illness during a 6-month period.
    At best, the Pfizer mRNA shot might be 80% effective against hospitalizations and death. That number comes directly from the FDA modeling (p. 32). I am bending over backwards to give Pfizer the benefit of considerable doubt because again, the Pfizer clinical trial showed NO reduction in hospitalizations or death in this age group.
    So injecting all 28,384,878 children ages 5 to 11 with two doses of Pfizer (which is what the Biden administration wants to do) would save, at most, 45 lives (0.8 effectiveness x 57 fatalities that otherwise would have occurred during that time period = 45).
    So then the NNTV to prevent a single fatality in this age group is 630,775 (28,384,878 / 45). But it’s a two dose regimen so if one wants to calculate the NNTV per injection the number doubles to 1,261,550. It’s literally the worst NNTV in the history of vaccination.
    630,000 children injected with 1.2 million doses to save one life. That’s incredibly inefficient. However, it could be even worse than that.
    As we covered last week, according to statistics cited at the VRBPAC meeting, only 94 children from the 5-11 age group have died. If this lower figure is correct, the NNTV to prevent a single death jumps up to 915,641.
    In other words, in order to hypothetically prevent a single child from dying over a six month period, you would have to inject nearly one million children with almost two million doses of the Pfizer vaccine.
    What kind of risk are those 915,641 children facing from their two doses of Pfizer mRNA soup?
    Well, early studies found around 11.1 cases of severe anaphylaxis per million doses of the Pfizer shot, so already any “fully vaccinated” child is almost 22x more likely to have an allergic reaction than to actually be protected from Covid.
    Other severe reactions are harder to calculate.
    It is known, for example, that Pfizer’s own trial showed increased all-cause mortality in the vaccinated group vs the placebo group, to the point the trial was abandoned after six months and all remaining placebo members were given the vaccine, effectively destroying the control group. To quote Rodgers again:
    As Bobby Kennedy explains, Pfizer’s clinical trial in adults showed alarming increases in all cause mortality in the vaccinated:
    “In Pfizer’s 6 month clinical trial in adults — there was 1 covid death out of 22,000 in the vaccine (“treatment”) group and 2 Covid deaths out of 22,000 in the placebo group (see Table s4). So NNTV = 22,000. The catch is there were 5 heart attack deaths in the vaccine group and only 1 in placebo group. So for every 1 life saved from Covid, the Pfizer vaccine kills 4 from heart attacks. All cause mortality in the 6 month study was 20 in vaccine group and 14 in placebo group.

    Comment by James — Mon 8th November 2021 @ 7:20 pm

  17. Here the UK COVID19- Vaccine Program Director David LV Bauer ADMITS to viewers how the Pfizer vaccine WEAKENS your natural immune system.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVVr5lfd2gU

    DJ Ward would of course know a lot more than the experts

    Comment by James — Mon 8th November 2021 @ 7:44 pm

  18. @15

    Good article? My arse.

    That guy is worse than a mid-wit, he’s fucked in the head.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Tue 9th November 2021 @ 3:34 am

  19. Know it alls like Evan have all the answers, with nothing to back them up. This is good too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3aZd6aTCAkM

    Comment by James — Tue 9th November 2021 @ 7:42 am

  20. Another one that fights like a girl.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Tue 9th November 2021 @ 9:19 am

  21. Sometimes statistics tell the truth.
    But lie at the same time.

    To explain “absolute risk reduction” (ARR) in simple terms: if an unvaccinated person has a 10% chance of getting the disease, and a vaccinated person has a 1% chance, then the ARR for the vaccine is 9%.

    9% percent sounds small.
    The unvaccinated has 1000% greater chance of getting the disease.
    Using the same statistics.

    Injection Group: 8/18,198 = 0.04%
    Placebo Group: 162/18,325 = 0.88%
    Absolute risk reduction = 0.84%
    So actually 2200% more dangerous being unvaccinated.
    Not 0.84% more dangerous.

    Arguments about children, are not arguments for adults.
    That is especially the case, for this disease.
    A parent, is unlikely to lose a child, to this disease.
    Presently.

    No anti vaccination information argument works for the rest home.
    Those with at risk illness, have few options.

    Those unvaccinated, left begging on the hospital bed.
    For the vaccine.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Tue 9th November 2021 @ 9:20 am

  22. Quite honestly Evan, you seem like a bit of a coward to me, and far too stupid to discuss issues constructively. Don’t spend all your time on a gender issues site while the world passes you by

    Comment by James — Tue 9th November 2021 @ 6:45 pm

  23. In a world where you can be anything you want, be kind to those people, struggling to accept their false Covid beliefs, and realise your time and arrogance is wasted on me and washes off like salt water on a sunny day, Mary Sunshine.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Tue 9th November 2021 @ 8:15 pm

  24. It will likely end up someone’s doctorate.
    Studying reasons behind, not being vaccinated.
    It did not help, that it was made political in the US.
    And an already established, anti vaccine movement.

    Maybe it’s the mind of the fatalist.
    That there lifespan is predetermined.
    Virus or not, they will die.
    Worrying about it, needless.

    What then of those, that tempt fate.
    The daredevil, risking death.
    Do they not hold fate, in there own hands.
    The outcome, of a decision.

    If my outcome was predetermined.
    And your outcome was predetermined.
    Could I change what is predetermined for you.
    The outcome, of a decision.

    Does my decision, to get vaccinated.
    Make me less likely, to pass it on, when I get exposed to it.
    Did I just alter, what is predetermined, for the unvaccinated.
    Certainly the unvaccinated, do not change things positively for me.

    The daredevils of society.
    We can only wish them the best.
    The outcome there own.
    While we get on, living life.

    Trying to avoid, what is predetermined.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Wed 10th November 2021 @ 12:21 am

  25. The average death age in Western countries is still around 82 and switching from a modelled analysis to a data based analysis is showing that although there are different Covid patterns in different countries there mortality rates over all are showing no significant shift in a country’s rate but a significant swing in a reporting of the cause of death – a panic of Covid turned into the Pandemic that wasn’t.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Wed 10th November 2021 @ 7:00 am

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