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In the Extreme

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 11:55 am Sun 9th April 2023

Covid Vaccine Wise

In the extreme her young man was prohibited from using a public toilet during what Murfitt describes as “The irrational and discrimatory traffic light system” that former prime minister, Jacinda Ardern and former Director General of Health, Ashley Bloomfield used to support New Zealand’s vaccine rollout.

Earlier today, I saw another meme of an an ANZAC soldier dragging a wounded buddy, and a comment that read something like,

You don’t know what you’re capable of
until you have no other option

What concerns me this weekend in particular is the sudden blanket mainstream pitch from the Government Disinformation Project about the rise of Disinformation and what should be subject to censorship.

More pecisely the argument that brought Musolini to power in Italy a century ago.

A female lawyer defending her disabled son in extreme circumstances and that could be subject to censorship and the rest of the world is looking at NZ aghast in the same manner Italy was viewed a century ago.

There we have it gentlemen and what are we to do?

Sit on our emasculated arses and say nothing, see nothing, do nothing?


  1. You are right, it was a very strange time.
    Because modern society, had no experience.
    How did society respond, in plague times.
    What did they do, that abused human rights.
    The 1918 flu response, or the Ebola outbreak.

    Somehow we didn’t avoid, abusing human rights.
    It was reality, that people lost jobs.
    We were locked down, forced to wear masks.
    Pressured for many, into vaccinations.

    I think all the paranoia, turned into not caring.
    Society has moved on, trying to forget COVID.
    COVID is just a thing, like everything else.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Sun 9th April 2023 @ 2:52 pm

  2. @1 That’s like saying cyclone Gabrielle was a couple of months and everyone had moved on.

    The rest of New Zealand maybe but for those affected they are still suffering looting and a lack of help. The donated money to Red Cross etc hasn’t turned up.

    By comparison it is easy to say NZ has moved on from Covid. Well if that’s the case why before Christmas did the government extend the emergency provisions from May 2023 to May 2024.

    Why is there a mandate court case in the Wellington High Court next week for just those that are still affected by government Covid mandates?

    Comment by Evan Myers — Sun 9th April 2023 @ 4:06 pm

  3. Misinformation was really from Bill Gates, Fauci, Charles et al and was relayed by MSM. Quite opposite to what they were telling everyone, we know that the vaccine was a vaccine in name only, it does not work, you will still catch Covid and transmit it, and it harms your immune system. There are more people injured by the ‘vaccine’ than by Covid. Influenza rates have not changed for several years and alarmingly, there is now a huge rise in miscarriage amoung vaccinated women

    Comment by James — Sun 9th April 2023 @ 7:26 pm

  4. As you would expect any government unwilling to examine consequences is well aware of its mistakes.

    That is made additionally more difficult as the two media entities that profited the most from this exercise are SpinOff and SIUFF NEWS.

    Comment by Downunder — Sun 9th April 2023 @ 8:31 pm

  5. It’s a very polarising subject, it’s for or against.
    Which should be a warning, the argument is wrong.
    If the decision was easy, there’s no two sides.
    The truth can’t be judged, so you don’t argue the truth.

    So the government was wrong, it was always guessing policy.
    In hindsight many things, can be done differently next time.
    So protesting was inevitable, because not everything was true.
    Some conspiracy theory’s, were just nonsense in comparison.

    I’m always aware, things happened in real time.
    So for me, I struggle with demands of accountability.

    Have you ever been forced, to make life and death decisions.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Tue 11th April 2023 @ 8:03 pm

  6. Have you ever been forced, to make life and death decisions..

    #5 You hold yourself up as a rational logical being until there is some concern around Ardern or the Labour Party then you turn into Red Rubbish Rhetoric – I’ll stop short of sophisticated troll and call it Freudian blindness.

    New Zealand by comparison was never in the danger zone. That was quoting Ardern, “Sustained Propaganda” to quoting Michael Baker “nudge” people in the politically desired direction.

    NZ was reactively months behind the world and still is in its Covid response.

    The current propaganda is so disparate by comparison to the overseas situation and enough to suggest there is civil liability if not a prima facie case to investigate criminal liability.

    Comment by Evan Myers — Thu 13th April 2023 @ 7:18 am

  7. Cambridge dictionary – mandate – to order someone to do something
    Oxford dictionary mandate – an official order given to somebody to perform a particular task

    Just because you have an official order to do something does not mean that you have to do it. Do not forget the agreement made in the Nuremberg Code where a vaccine cannot be imposed and no penalties can be opposed on those who will not take it.

    Sudden death syndrome

    What is in the vaccine–payload-2-nanocapsules-a-hard-hitting-scientific-look-at-what-is-in-the-co.html

    Comment by James — Thu 13th April 2023 @ 9:54 am

  8. We are living, in a test.
    It’s happened, and nothing can be done.
    Some took the vaccine, and time will show the results.
    Some did not, time also will show that outcome.
    Nobody disputes, the vaccine has many issues.
    Was natural selection killing the weak, the best option.
    Or allowing modern medicine, to intervene a better option.

    Personally one argument, is important.
    What strategy, resulted in the least deaths.
    COVID was not political, ask the millions of dead.
    Globally how are we doing, as bad as the USA.
    They are the most litigious, more so than us.
    Where are the winning cases, for wrongs.

    Our leaders wrongs, would be the same as there’s.
    NZ was not special with policy, imagine being in China.
    Responsibility for politicians, usually involves unemployment.
    Haven’t people who don’t like Ardern, got that result.

    I naturally defend, people being attacked.
    I know, that’s viewed as a personality flaw.
    Even if I don’t like things, like defending Trump.
    Arguments for murderers, anybody people decide to hate.

    That is not to say, have a court case and win.
    Convict Ardern magically, getting the sin of revenge.
    I have written not nice things, about Ardern so I am guilty.
    Guilty of attacking the person, not the actions.
    We have court cases in NZ, so we will see with time.

    I don’t know the reference, to red rubbish rhetoric.
    I have read the little red book, so I’m confused.
    Because I do support, one communist idea.
    As a citizen you should be working, so you may be right.
    Everything else works better, when that happens.
    Working for a living as anti freedom as you get, the wage slave.

    Ardern wasn’t selling working, she sold dependency.

    Comment by DJ Ward — Thu 13th April 2023 @ 8:02 pm

  9. Doesn’t project the usual anti male rubbish

    May be of interest to those in or near Tauranga

    Comment by Evan Myers — Mon 24th April 2023 @ 12:40 pm

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