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Fri 29th September 2006

The Wrath of IRD

Filed under: Child Support,General — Scrap_The_CSA @ 12:07 pm

There is a dad in Rotorua who applied for a departure order via an administrative review.?

The Review Officer decided that the case was too complex and declined to make a decision telling the dad he would have to go to the Family Court.?

The dad lodged all the applications and 12 Hours before the case was due to be heard was severed with documents from the Crown Law Office who are acting for IRD in this case. (Note IRD has an extensive legal division but have chosen to use Crown Law!)?

The dad went to Court where the judge told him:?

1) He could not have a McKenzie friend.?

2) Struck out his application.?

3) Refused him the opportunity to seek a barrister to represent him.?

This case is being set up by IRD and Crown law as an attempt to overturn the current restriction that departure orders cannot be retrospective (I.E can only currently get a departure for the current year)?

If IRD are successful this will open the floodgates for departure oders to be made for any past Child Support year.?

The changes in amendment bill (No 4) mean that IRD can initiate admin reviews (prior to the change only a “liable” or “custodial” parent could seek a review)?

If, and I suspect they will be, Crown Law are successful in their attempt to have the law limiting departures to the current year reinterpreted by the Courts combined with the changes just passed will mean that tens of thousands of parents will be subject to reassessment and placed in debt with IRD acting as Judge, Jury and Executioner.?

Be afraid; be very afraid, this is the start of the new face of child tax recovery.?


Neck-and-neck on female vote

Filed under: General — Julie @ 11:39 am

Tuesday September 26, 2006
By Paula Oliver

National remains neck-and-neck with Labour in the battle for the female vote, with the latest Herald Digi-Poll survey hinting that there has been little fallout yet for Don Brash from his reported affair.

The poll shows National has 42.3 per cent support among females and Labour has 42.7 per cent.

The battle for the female vote is crucial to National’s hopes of getting into Government.

The party enjoys strong support among males, and this is reflected in the latest poll, with National on 49.6 per cent and Labour 33.3 per cent.

The last Herald poll in August had National slightly ahead of Labour in the race for female votes – something the party could not achieve in any of the newspaper’s polls in the lead-up to last year’s election.

One of the potential negative spinoffs for National from publicity about Dr Brash’s alleged affair with businesswoman Diane Foreman was a drop in female support.

But a breakdown of female reaction to the affair story shows an interesting twist.

Asked if the public ought to have been told about Dr Brash’s supposed affair, 76.5 per cent of women said no.

I don’t know how many others are concerned about National’s reaction to gaining women’s support but for myself, I see this attitude showing. “I want to WIN at any cost and I will sacrafice the country’s and it’s people’s best interest to get what I want.”

I am starting to see that Don Brash thinks us females are just plain “stupid.” Are women today so gullable that we would think only of our own sex’s rights and give femenism even more power so that the National Party can power themselves.

And it doesn’t show much for his male image either. Does this man think that he will keep the male’s votes by going to the feminist side?

But just like every major political party in New Zealand is being shown up for, this man is being selfish and we have to realise there are big fish behind these political parties, the one’s that are bribing by paying cash to the party so that they get in and will work with other parties of their choosing. And Don Brash doesn’t care about that either.

Where did all the great “Heroes” and “Heroine’s” go?

Oh, sorry, I didn’t see you there.

Tue 26th September 2006

Navajo Wisdom.

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 4:05 pm

For all of us who are married, were married, wish you were married,
or wish you weren’t married, this is something to smile about the next
time you open a box of chocolates:

Sally was driving home from one of her business trips in Northern
Arizona when she saw an elderly Navajo woman walking on the side of the road.

As the trip was a long and quiet one, she stopped the car and asked
the Navajo woman if she would like a ride.

With a silent nod of thanks, the woman got into the car. Resuming the

Sally tried in vain to make a bit of small talk with the Navajo woman. The
old woman just sat silently, looking intently at everything she saw,
studying every little detail, until she noticed a white bag on the seat
next to Sally.

“What in bag?” asked the old woman.

Sally looked down at the white bag and said, “It’s a box of chocolates. I
got it for my husband”.

The Navajo woman was silent for another moment or two. Then,
speaking with the quiet wisdom of an elder, she said:”Good trade.”

School Teacher Exonerated

Filed under: Boys / Youth / Education,Sex Abuse / CYF — JohnPotter @ 11:49 am

Loosing a few minor battles like this won’t discourage the anti-male brigade – prospective male teachers will get the message in any case.

NZ Herald: Primary school teacher accused of rape wins $30,000

Police investigating a rape claim against a primary school teacher were “haphazard”, failed to take obvious lines of inquiry, made a premature arrest and were negligent, a judge has ruled.

The teacher, who has permanent name suppression, was charged with raping a 7-year-old when she was in his class in 1996. The name of the school is also suppressed.

He faced two charges of sexual violation by rape, one of indecent assault and two of assault when he appeared in Wellington District Court in June.

But in a rare move, Judge Bruce Davidson told the jury he was withdrawing the case because of the implausibility of the complaint.

And yesterday he awarded the teacher $30,000 costs.

Children quarantined from men

Filed under: Boys / Youth / Education — JohnPotter @ 10:07 am

Children are being “quarantined” from men by sexist recruitment policies in the early childhood sector, an industry body says.

Early Childhood Council chief executive Sue Thorne said children were missing crucial contact with male role models because men felt unwelcome in the profession.

The problem was linked to the “paedophile hysteria” that followed Christchurch’s Civic Creche abuse scandal involving Peter Ellis in the 1990s.

It was now too dangerous for male teachers to cuddle a distressed child or change a nappy because of the culture — and some parents refused to send children to centres that employed men.

Female domination of this industry is nearly complete:

A report issued yesterday by the Childforum research network says sexism is rife in the early childcare sector.

Of its 13,741 employees last year, just 132 were men, researcher Sarah Farquhar said.

“The child abuse argument has proven to be a convenient excuse to keep men out of an occupation that has been a site for feminist activism since the 1970s.”

There was no evidence that male teachers were more likely to abuse children, she said.

New Guidelines

New relaxed guidelines on physical contact between teachers and children are to be released today.

The guidelines advise NZEI members “to use common sense in all areas of their interaction with children and be mindful of situations that may expose themselves to unnecessary risk.”

Males teaching at primary schools are the next target:

A report by Auckland University education lecturer Alison Jones, released in 2003 highlighted interviews of primary school teachers and principals who spoke about their reluctance to touch children because of widespread social anxiety about sexual abuse.

The teachers reported wet and naked children wandering out of pool changing rooms looking for help in getting dressed, and girls lying prone on sports fields while male teachers sent children to find a female to help.

“In many instances, female teachers have had to be called away from their own groups to assist male colleagues afraid to touch or be alone with a child.”

Herald smears MENZ

Filed under: General — JohnPotter @ 9:31 am

Today I sent the following letter to the NZ Herald:

In your article: ‘Man who released Davis images says election spending the reason‘ published on September 24 2006, you reported: “Mr Bird, 62, has been associated with the men’s rights group Menz”.

MENZ is not about “men’s rights”, and it is not a group.

It is a website at www.MENZ.org.nz, owned and administrated by myself, with the aim of ‘promoting a clearer understanding of men’s experience’.

Most men involved with gender politics in NZ will have contributed something to the site, or will have been mentioned by others over the last ten years, but there are no formal associations with any person or organisation.

For the record, I strongly disagree with Chuck Bird’s views on homosexuality. I am sure the majority of men active in the NZ men’s movement will be distressed and angry to have been portrayed as supporting this position.

As this has always been a divisive issue within men’s organisations, I actively discourage discussion of this subject on the website.

Incidentally, I have hugged and kissed men most of my life. As a secure heterosexual, I don’t see why anyone should imagine this to be sexually arousing.

John Potter

Mon 25th September 2006

The Donkin Method

Filed under: General — Scrap_The_CSA @ 9:22 pm

The Donkin Method ( A summary)

The Donkin Method for Child Support calculations is designed to provide a solution to the question of how a fair and reasonable child support system can be attained.

There is little doubt that the best outcome for children occurs when mum and dad share the responsibilities of parenting.

Shared parenting is best for kids.When separation of the parents occurs there is no reason why parent s should not be able to continue sharing the parenting of children.(1) Looking from the children’s perspective there is no reason why they should not continue to have both mum and dad parenting them.

It is a parents right to equally parent a child and a childs right to be parented by both parents.

The principle of equal parental responsibility is the basis of the Donkin Method of Child Support.

It is neither parent’s responsibility to support the other financially. It is each parent’s responsibility to support the children.

A few good men.

Filed under: General — Julie @ 9:47 am

TV1 Sunday’s documentary

They are an endangered species when it comes to working with toddlers. Those brave enough to chance it run the risk of being accused of child abuse. It’s serious, unfair the teachers say, and what’s more it’s bad for the kids.

Once again Ian Sinclair has shown it the way it is.


You may have to click on a few good men in the middle column once you get to the page to see the video.

Sat 23rd September 2006

National Collective of Independent Women’s Refuge Bullies

Filed under: Domestic Violence,General — JohnPotter @ 1:59 pm

The story below is a rare glimpse into the way power and control is exercised by radical feminist gatekeepers.

It is interesting to compare their behaviour with other feminist groups such as the National Network of Stopping Violence Services, and Doctors for Sexual Abuse Care.

Wanganui Chronicle: Refuge wrangle goes on

Wanganui agencies are again questioning why it’s taken so long to open another refuge when $70,000 is sitting in the Wanganui account held by the National Collective of Independent Women’s Refuge Inc (NCIWR).

They’re also questioning why the NCWIR is paying $230 a week for a safe house in Wanganui that’s not being used. The former Women’s and Children’s Shelter was affiliated to the NCIWR, but it was closed in March 2005 when CYF, its main funding provider, withdrew its funding after an audit found faults with the way it was run.

For that reason, Wanganui women who supported victims of domestic violence don’t want a refuge affiliated to the NCIWR.

They believe an independent refuge run by a local charitable trust would provide far better services to abused women and children in Wanganui.

In September 2005, an interim governance group, the Wanganui Women’s Refuge (WWR), was formed.

City Missioner Shirley-Joy Barrow last month resigned from the WWR governance group citing the behaviour of the NCIWR as the reason.

Ms Barrow said she agreed to be a member of the current group but found as time went on that the NCIWR bullied people through their control of meetings and processes.

Fri 22nd September 2006

Book: Shared Parenting – raising your children cooperatively after separation

Filed under: Law & Courts — JohnPotter @ 2:26 pm

Published by Finch: Online purchase details for ‘Shared Parenting – raising your children cooperatively after separation’

Book cover: Shared Parenting - raising your children cooperatively after separation I’ve just finished reading this new book by Australian psychologist Jill Burrett and lawyer / mediator Michael Green. From the very first page it’s clear that the authors are in tune with modern times – this book is presumably a reflection of the positive changes which are taking place in the Australian family law arena.

The authors say in their introduction:

For far too long there’s been a misplaced belief that children, especially those under 10, are better off with mothers – and this has helped spawn another (hotly debated) the belief: that the legal system disadvantages fathers.

We believe that the situation has seriously disadvantaged children, and that fathers should be more engaged with their children than they have been.

We also believe that, for a very long time, gender stereotypes, the system and other complex prejudices have discouraged some fathers and caused others to participate little in parenting, especially after separating.

We don’t think fortnightly weekend parenting is meaningful shared parenting. We think that shared parenting means having real chunks of time engaged with your children for a flexible 35 to 50% or more of their available time.

The book outlines the advantages of working cooperatively to develop a suitable parenting plan instead of wasting money and creating stress by fighting in the Family Court. The focus is relentlessly on what is actually best for the children, although it is pretty clear that adults following this advice are much more likely to have a better life as well! There is plenty of research drawn upon, but it as it is referenced in the author’s notes at the back, the book remains an easy read, using language which the reader will not need a university education to understand.

Trans-tasman women’s affairs meeting

Filed under: General — UF @ 12:28 pm

Lianne Dalziel is meeting her aussie equivalents today in Adelaide to discuss women’s issues. This is an annual meeting. United release below. Government release link on Scoop


Turner backs blokes

United Future deputy leader Judy Turner says the Government should be
putting as much effort into men’s needs as it does for women’s.

“I question the fairness of having a Ministry that looks only at women’s
issues, without any advocate for men, or that fails to acknowledge gender
issues are inter-related, not isolated from each other,” she said.

“As the Minister of Women’s Affairs meets with her Australian counterparts
to look at issues that affect women today, it is timely to remind the

Government of the thousands of New Zealand men who are affected by issues
that receive neither the concern nor the attention they deserve from

“I think it’s great that we continue to encourage better outcomes for
women, both here and abroad ? but why do we not do the same for the blokes?

“For example, while women dominate many lower paid carer professions, men
dominate dangerous professions and subsequently have far more accidents and
deaths in the workplace.

“Women are more likely to leave the workforce for a period to take
responsibility for child-rearing, and may therefore ease back in lower paid
part-time work ? a concern looked at by the Ministry.

“But the flip-side is that men often feel that they don’t see enough of
their families and are forced to work longer and longer hours, faced with
the stress of being the sole provider for their families on one income.

“With men suffering disproportionately in areas of suicide, substance
abuse, homelessness, mortality, education, workplace injuries, many health
problems, lack of male teachers and with family court issues, there are
many areas that deserve acknowledgment and attention from the Government.

“My point is that this Government’s ideology and policies, ignore the
concerns of half the population. It’s a good thing to look at how to
improve the lot for women, but we should also be looking at whether we can
improve problem areas for men,” said Mrs Turner.


Investigate: The Smoking Gun Issue.

Filed under: General,Men's Health — Downunder @ 11:30 am

If you look past the Peter Davis editorial……

It certainly is The Smoking Gun Issue.

There is an interesting article by Miranda Devine, entitiled women pulling the plug.

“Some discussion at the forum revolved around a six year US study of 65 married couples that found that the secret to a lasting marriage was a husband that did what his wife says.”

The above extract highlighted in the article is out of context.

Professor William Dohertys other comments.

“Best, says Doherty, to base the “marriage movement” on common language of research which shows that children raised in an intact marriage do better in general in all scales than those who aren’t.
A new generation burnt by the experience of their parents’ failures, yet longing for love because of it, are on the threshold of embracing marriage or rejecting it. This makes more urgent the task of “selling” the institution as the foremost protector of children and ultimately the best vehicle for human fulfilment.”

Another article How the west was lost: questions the future of countries who simply give up breeding, perhaps something we should seriously consider ourselves.

Thu 21st September 2006

F4J Digital Video Of Actions Taken ( Get Involved, Cooperate & Don’t Burn Out)

Filed under: General — Intrepid @ 12:28 pm

Authors: F4J (Assisted: Dave Ellison)
From: Hands on Equal Parenting
Via: The Honor Network

Here are 9 motivational tapes of actions & marches taken to encourage everyone in all movements to bring about justice for men & fathers.

Click: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWW7wQPVm7I

Wed 20th September 2006

The New Zealand Mental Health Survey.

Filed under: General,Men's Health — Downunder @ 2:20 pm

Stuff Link:

The New Zealand Mental Health Survey, released by Health Minister Pete Hodgson yesterday, found that by the age of 75, 46 per cent of people would have experienced a mental health disorder.
Dr Wilson believed these figures would help people be happier to talk about these kind of issues in everyday forums.
“Things like depressive episodes and anxiety episodes are contributing primarily to that large figure of 46 per cent.”

Well I’m happy to share; that I am anxious about what the Family Court does to NZ children and depressed about our failing socialist state.

Anyone else want to share, and be happy too?

Tue 19th September 2006

113 years on, equality battle continues

Filed under: General — tonyf @ 9:32 pm

4.00pm Tuesday September 19, 2006
By Lindy Laird

New Zealand women won the right to vote in New Zealand 113 years ago today – but that didn’t mean equality issues were all over bar the shouting.

“It took another 70 years of nagging” before women could sit on juries, be Justices of the Peace or work as police officers, says longtime women’s lobbyist Audrey Trimmer.

Equal pay and parity in employment was one of the more high-profile ongoing battles, along with the campaign to reduce violence in society.

“Everybody is amazed when I tell them that there is still an an ongoing struggle on behalf of women,” Mrs Trimmer says.

“There are so many things we take for granted now that wouldn’t have happened if the National Council for Women hadn’t lobbied hard for and made submissions to parliament.”

Mrs Trimmer fears that, although lobby groups will continue to work on rights and quality of life issues, younger generations had become blase about the events of 1893 which saw New Zealand lead the world in allowing women to vote.

“I think it’s a shame that New Zealand history isn’t taught to the level it should be in schools.”

Christine Low, national president of the group that represents up to 250,000 women belonging to a wide variety of affiliated groups, said it was ironic that women’s groups were still fighting for some of the same issues fought for by the suffragettes.

“We have made some gains but it’s far from over. There’s still an awful lot of work to do not only for women but to benefit all of New Zealand society.

“Freedom from violence, in particular,” Ms Low said. “Calling it domestic violence just pigeonholes it. It’s much broader than that. And pay equity is still but a distant dream for many.”

* Women in Mongolia had the vote (1924) before women in Britain (1928). In Spain women lost the vote in 1936 under the Franco regime and didn’t get it back until 1976. In Australia the end of legislative discrimination against Aboriginal peoples gave native women the vote in 1962. Swiss women were allowed to vote after 1971, and in Bahrain women gained the vote in 2001.


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Study finds bias against women in science

Filed under: General — tonyf @ 9:27 pm

1.00pm Tuesday September 19, 2006
By Maggie Fox

Women are being filtered out of high-level science, maths and engineering jobs in the United States, and there is no good reason for it, according to a National Academies report released today.

A committee of experts looked at all the possible excuses — biological differences in ability, hormonal influences, childrearing demands, and even differences in ambition — and found no good explanation for why women are being locked out.

“Compared with men, women faculty members are generally paid less and promoted more slowly, receive fewer honours, and hold fewer leadership positions,” the Academies said in a statement.

“These discrepancies do not appear to be based on productivity, the significance of their work, or any other performance measures.”

“We found no significant biological differences between men and women in science, engineering and mathematics that could account for the lower representation of women in academic faculty and scientific leadership positions,” said Donna Shalala, president of the University of Miami and head of the committee that wrote the report.

The study was compiled by all the National Academies — the National Academy of Sciences, National Academy of Engineering, and the Institute of Medicine — which advise Congress, the federal government, and various institutions.

Many arguments have been made to explain why women do not excel in maths and science — that they are not as good as men in mathematical ability, that female brain structures are different or that hormones affect performance.

Lawrence Summers resigned as Harvard University president after he made widely disparaged remarks in 2005 suggesting that women were biologically less able in maths and science, and that women chose to pay more attention to their families and thus failed to put in enough effort to succeed at work.

The experts looked at many different studies on the issue.

“The committee found no sound evidence to support these myths and often good evidence to the contrary,” said Ana Mari Cauce, Executive Vice Provost at the University of Washington in Seattle.

“In fact, female performance in high school mathematics now matches that of males. If biology were the basis of that, we’ve seen some major evolution in the past decades.”

Urgent change is needed, said Cauce, if the United States wants to compete internationally in science.

“This is about more excellence. This is not about changing the bar or lowering the bar,” Cauce said.


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Lock em up says Judith.

Filed under: Child Support,General — Downunder @ 5:30 pm

Scoop Link: Lock em up says Judith

From the National Website.

Revenue – Dr Hon Lockwood Smith
Associate Revenue – Pansy Wong.

Look who has got plenty to say for herself when it is not even her portfolio. Looks like Pansy Wong is going to be the National Patsie set up for the Hospital Pass.

It Would Seem Pro-Fathers Rights Females Must Shut Up or Lose their License to Practice Law too!

Filed under: General — Intrepid @ 3:15 pm

Dateline: USA
From: By Brad Haynes of the Eagle-Tribune
Via: the Honor Network
Additional Comments: Timocrat

ANDOVER – Barbara Johnson, the flamboyant Andover lawyer who fought for the rights of fathers, campaigned for governor in an antique fire engine and drove a hearse to Washington, D.C., to protest divorce laws, has been barred from practicing law in Massachusetts.

Johnson became well known in the Merrimack Valley and among fatherhood rights activists for her successful defense of Brian Meuse of Haverhill, who was accused of kidnapping his daughter from her mother, who had temporary custody and had taken the child to Florida. Meuse was found not guilty by an all-male jury in May 2002 after Johnson argued he had no choice but to take the 14-month-old girl because the mother was not getting her the medical care she needed.
Johnson, 71, who also has been an acerbic critic of the Massachusetts court system, said yesterday she’ll fight her disbarment all the way to the U.S. Supreme Court.
Yesterday, she called the process under which she was disbarred a “kangaroo court,” and compared the state to a Third World country, but remained nonchalant about life after losing her license.
Johnson was disbarred for putting sensitive confidential information from two of her cases on her Web site, for refusing to pay legal fines after being held in contempt, and for conducting herself in an “insulting, vituperative” manner in court, among other charges.

Men rights activist can’t practice in New Zealand, and even pro-male rights female lawyers lose their right to practice in US. Do you see the trend here? Is it really the impartial law we need to deal with here? Again in this story they are trying to come down on websites too. Unite with other men’s rights or suffer in isolation.

Licence tests for parents

Filed under: General — JohnPotter @ 9:46 am

Economist Murray Weatherston says child abuse costs New Zealand $1.25 billion a year. About 120 people, including social workers, paediatricians and Children’s Commissioner Cindy Kiro, attended a one-day seminar on Monday called by Weatherston and Family Court Judge Graeme MacCormick.

NZ Herald: Parents should sit licence test, say experts

A high-powered expert group has proposed a kind of “parents’ licence test” which all parents would have to sit to keep care of their children and to receive child-related welfare benefits.

The proposed assessment, similar to a driver’s licence, would be administered when a baby was born and repeated when the child turned 1, 3, 5, 8, 11 and 14.

Parents found to have “risk factors” for child abuse, such as domestic violence, drug and alcohol problems or mental illness, would be offered help.

Judge Graeme MacCormick, a former Family Court judge who initiated the proposal, told a seminar in Auckland yesterday that parents who refused to accept help, or to be assessed, should have their child-related benefits suspended and possibly lose their children.

If currently popular “no smacking” standards are imposed, around 80% of us are going to fail. Perhaps a massive programme of building state orphanages is just around the corner.

Are the “risk factors” likely to be applied in a gender-neutral manner I wonder? Mmmm…

Parenting Council chairwoman Lesley Max said society should not tolerate “child hostage” situations where “fearsome fathers or father figures frighten away those who might help”.

Mon 18th September 2006

Men out in the cold

Filed under: General — Julie @ 4:53 pm

If you’re a male and need emergency housing, even for just a few nights, there’s often nowhere to lay your head. Merilee Andrew reports.

Western Welfare Agencies, which can comfortably cater for displaced females and their children, say the housing situation is desparately inadequate for males.

Citizen’s Advice Buraeu manager Diane Mellowes has trouble placing males. “I’ve had a run of them. There’s just this huge gap for homeless men or married people. ”

Her office is a common port of call for people who are low on funds but need a roof in a hurray. It’s not a problem if they’re female. But for everyone else – single males, or families with a husband or older boys – it’s “desperate”.

Salvation Army Henderson’s Zandrea Lee says she meets quite a few men who come in, down on their luck, to find nowhere local to send them.

The Aucklander, 6 September 2006, page 7.

The rest of the article describes a situation where the female and children where housed and the husband had to sleep in the car. Also how the streets become a home and how the places for men are not very pleasant.

Personal Politics, or Men’s Issue.

Filed under: General,Men's Health — Downunder @ 2:16 pm

It is no surprise that Clark wants to Tazer Trevor Mallard, but the question is why. Is it because she abides so strongly with the principle of keeping private and political separate, or that she saw that a similar such retaliation might expose something more damaging for her. What was exposed in the personal life of Don Brash may have implications for him personally and his family, even his future and his party. His alleged moral failure in a heterosexual relationship however does not pose a great threat to New Zealand Society. We can’t go killing off politicians on the basis of their lack of moral restraint unless the public is of equal or greater moral fibre.

If there is truth to the allegation that Mr. Davis is gay, then this is a completely different situation. It is not about morality it is about sexuality. The Heterosexual life style is based on reproduction and the Homosexual lifestyle is based on sexuality. If we have a sexuality based Government producing legislation which is damaging heterosexual relationships, that is a threat to the majority of New Zealanders, both socially and economically.

If it were true that Clark and Davis created a lesbian homosexual marriage of convenience, for their personal and political ambitions, that is a lie that the media is compelled to expose. It may be case that even their closest friends live the lie with them, but the public requirement here is that the media determine the facts and allow the democratic process to determine an answer.

It is becoming plainly evident to a voting public that the broadminded ideological fervor of the labour leadership is not only socially dysfunctional but has its origins in sexuality rather than reproduction. It is not only dysfunctional it is threatening.

Some would call this Gay Bashing, but it is not. Many homosexuals find complete acceptance in society. What turns acceptance to intolerance is the political ambition of sexuality. There is no need to suggest we return to the persecution of homosexuals, however one must expect that homosexuals will by the folly of a few of their political dissidents suffer the consequences.

If there are lies and deception here, the media owes us the answers, now that we have got this far.

This article was published on Stuff: Politics gets personal for PM

We Got Us A Convoy

Filed under: Child Support,General — Downunder @ 9:44 am

Child Support Convoy
Auckland to Wellington.
Friday 26th January 2007

Time to get serious about child support protest. The Convoy will travel from Auckland to Wellington ahead of the National Child Support Conference.

This is Auckland Anniversay Weekend. If you are serious about participating in this weekend, take Friday off and travel home on Monday.

Sun 17th September 2006

Bothered About Child Support.

Filed under: Child Support,General — Downunder @ 10:24 pm

Had enough of the IRD child tax department.

Project Re Union Trust is hosting a child support forum in Auckland. Those interested please note the following date and time.

Auckland Child Support Forum.
10.00 am – 3.00 pm
Sunday 29 th October.

This is advance notice for those interested. Further advertising will follow.
Guest speaker (will not be from the IRD, they had their chance last time)

Organiser: Jim Bagnal 09 815 0307

Auckland needs to take it’s ideas and protest to Wellington for the

National Conference on Child Support
25-28 January 2007.

Sat 16th September 2006

The Busker

Filed under: General — Julie @ 6:01 pm

I don’t know how many of you are getting information on the work Benjamin Easton is doing. He is part of the Father’s Coalition so if you are on their mailing list you probably know.

But to the rest of you IMO he is similar to Wayne’s unusual tactics to protest and educate the public.

Benjamin is in Wellington living on the street and ‘Busking for his supper’. I don’t have the full picture but I think he just decided he was doing this and he just, “Up and went to Wellington.” But while he has been doing this (for weeks) he is writing to polititions, inviting them to discuss matters, organising events and talking to those that walk by day and night. He has some very interesting conversations and sometimes I think he reminds me of just what life is all about for I often don’t have time to just be “still.”

But anyhow here are interesting stats he has collected frm the public.

Question: Is New Zealand corrupt?

Yes — 50 No — 31

Question: Are we homophobic?

Yes — 45 No — 29

Question: Are we racist?

Yes — 56 No — 22

Question: Do children need their dads?

Yes — 846 No — 89

Comment: Would the public stampede to protect their’ children to need their dads?

Question: When parents split up, should there be a presumption of shared equal
parenting before they reach the court?

Yes — 250 No — 39

Question: If the media are given a “truth” or fact, and that truth is serious or
“in the public and general interest” should legislation be written to force the
media to publish that truth to either an authority or public?

Final: Yes – 136 No — 37

Question: Can judges (court of law) demand the truth?

Final: Yes – 243 No – 119

Kororia ki te Atua,
God bless
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Fri 15th September 2006

Film about prenuptials, request

Filed under: General — triassic @ 7:18 pm

A Production Company is producing a film on ‘prenuptials’ or as they are now referred to under the PRA Act 2002 , ‘contracting out agreements’.

The producer wishes to hear from anyone who has experienced an attack on one whether or not it went to a full court hearing. If it did not proceed to a hearing please advise why. Was blackmail utilised in order to have the decision settled out of court?

The program is about the “process” of defence in terms of Section 21 of the ACT. How was your contract attacked? The strategy of attack, first strike technique, domestic violence allegations, EXPATRE orders, solicitor incompetence in failing to advise other party adequately, other party not understanding contract, other party under undue pressure to sign etc.

Most importantly, did the contract supply you with ‘clarity and certainty’ as promised by the author of the ACT?

Your identification will be kept confidential and consent will be requested should the story be used in a dramatised format.

Please send succinct stories to

The CON-tract
Living Pictures Ltd
Box 56-459
Dominion Rd
Auckland 1003

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