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Wed 29th October 2008

Prosecution of child abductors

Filed under: General — MurrayBacon @ 6:49 pm


Father relieved abduction case is over

Wednesday, 29, Oct, 2008 4:04PM

The father of an eight-year-old boy at the centre of a high profile abduction case is relieved the ordeal has come to an end.

The boy was missing for five months after he was taken from Hamilton City Library two years ago.

Today his mother Kay Skelton and grandfather Dick Headley pleaded guilty to abduction at the High Court in Hamilton.

Court orders prevent the child’s father Chris Jones or his Lawyer Thomas Sutcliff speaking about the boy. However Mr Sutcliff says his client and his family are relieved, as they believe the matter could have been cleared up over a year ago.

Mr Sutcliff says the ordeal has drained his client financially and emotionally with the case going all the way to the Supreme Court.

Skelton and Headley will be sentenced in December.

Previous discussion on MENZ

After 5 or 600 women abductors in the last 20 years, 1 prosecuted when it could no longer be hidden from the public
Several men have been prosecuted, when number of men abductors is less than 100!
Generally the men kept the child for a few days, with little or no intention of totally destroying the child’s relationship to the other parent.
Most of the women abductors intended to put the child out of reach of the father forever!

Please draw your own conclusion about the integrity and skills of these familycaught “judges”!!!

As Ralph Nader said about a FORD car, the familycaught is unsafe at any speed.

Deterrence does require competent, timely, effective prosecutions.

Our children are worth protecting, from all abductors of any sex and (in my opinion) from these misleading, manipulative, devious, greedy, deviant “judges”. They lack knowledge about how to protect children and just play legal games for personal profit.

Note how they try protect their performance from informed public comment, by issuing gagging orders onto the father, whom they ripped off financially through the last 5 or so years. By doing this, they intend to protect their personal financial interests, which they have placed far far before the child’s “paramount” interests!!!!

They don’t want practices in the familycaught to improve or become competent, even by accident!

People of this ilk cannot be taken seriously, as protectors of children.
Best regards, MurrayBacon.

Tue 28th October 2008

The Worm Has Turned – Peter Dunne Sides With Nats

Filed under: General — Scrap_The_CSA @ 8:52 pm

National Party leader John Key has promised Mr Dunne a seat around his cabinet table after the United Future leader yesterday ruled out supporting a future Labour government.

Its official a vote for United Failure is a vote for National. National has one view on Child Tax, lets get more draconian.All dads are deadbeats in the eyes of Judge Judy (Judith Collins) and we should be punished and United Failure will support this.

So guys if you want to be stopped at the border by Tax Officials and pay a truckload more Child Tax and have less time with your kids vote for National and their lackey United Failure.

You have a choice on election night and as it stands National and United Failure are a very dangerous option that will get votes from gullible men who need to look beyond pious platitudes and remember what has, or more importantly, has not been delivered.

To be frank if you support them you deserve what you get. Time for change guys vote-wise in 2008 and remember don’t flush your vote down the Dunney



Sat 25th October 2008

New statistics on Suicide

Filed under: General — Tigerseye @ 7:53 am

Hey, Boshier, check this out…


Fri 24th October 2008

I want your opinion…

Filed under: General — Tigerseye @ 10:21 pm

Would we have a better family unit if we stopped Sunday trading?  This is a throw away question but I would like to know what everybody thinks.  I think a lot of parents are missing out on family time because of weekend work.  Let me know your thoughts…

Wed 22nd October 2008

Lyn Craig’s Lunacy

Filed under: General — Scrap_The_CSA @ 11:50 pm

Some food for thought :

Lyn Craig wants us to believe:

And overall .. Australian fathers spend an average of just under an hour between Monday
and Friday caring for the children .. with 90 per cent of that care done alongside the

Compare this to the just published UK study:

Children who spend time with their fathers have a higher IQ .Children who spend large amounts of time with their fathers have higher IQs, according to a new study.

We hear nothing of the findings of a well researched longitudinal study from the UK that shows how important dads are to our kids development but plenty of Lyn’s Lunacy. Says something about how the media in NZ views fatherhood.


Tue 21st October 2008

Family Court Psychologists

Filed under: General — blamemenforall @ 3:50 pm

A headline article in the latest newsletter of the NZ Psychological Society expresses delight that the number of complaints reaching the Psychos Board has fallen dramatically.  This has enabled an insurance company to reduce professional indemnity premiums for Family Court psychos.  However, don’t imagine this indicates any improvement in  Family Court psycho assessments.  Don’t imagine they have become any more ethical, less feminist or less male-bashing.  Quite the reverse from what many fathers report; often such reports are now required only to assess whether a father is feminized enough to allow his children to have him as a father.  As usual, many psycho reports simply amplify and give undeserved credibility towards all manner of allegations women make against ex partners.

The reason complaints are not getting to the Psycho Board is that a cosy little agreement was made between Boshier and the Board.  This produced a “practice note” that ordered all complaints about psychos to be dealt with in the first instance by the Family Court judge, who would decide whether the complaint should be referred on to the Board.  The judges are now so effectively stifling complaints that hardly any get through to the psychos professional body for proper scrutiny.  (more…)

Monkeys have more rights than fathers

Filed under: General — UF @ 1:32 pm

Press Release by United Future at 12:57 pm, 21 Oct 2008

Reports today that Wellington Zoo has solved the mystery of who fathered their baby chimpanzee through a DNA paternity test perfectly highlight the ludicrousness of family law in New Zealand, according to UnitedFuture deputy leader, Judy Turner.

“It’s an insult that we extend monkeys the right to determine parentage in this country, but refuse that basic right to fathers and children. It is a disgrace that men have no right at all to get a simple DNA test to confirm whether they are the father or not,” says Mrs Turner. (more…)

The time has come!

Filed under: Child Support — Tigerseye @ 11:20 am

While I don’t condone party political broadcasts on a forum like this I believe what happened last night is a positive step forward in our cause.

There I was sitting with 13 other candidates for Wellington Central with a crowd of maybe 200. I was the newbie in the room pressing flesh with the likes of Sue Kedgly, Stephen Franks and Grant Robertson. With Heather Roy to my right and Michael Appleby to my left I stood and gave my speech very nervously to the crowd. I swear they could actually hear my heart pumping while my hands were shaking like a leaf in a Wellington breeze. But I held my head up and let rip with the policies that I believe in whole heartedly.

Amongst other, less relative topics to this site, I let it be know that while the government is surgically removing the man from the family, several hundred thousand children are becoming Fatherless. Some on a day to day basis, and some – permanently. We will ABOLISH THE CHILD SUPPORT ACT, which is completely sexist and unfair legislation, in favour of a case by case approach. (more…)

Mon 20th October 2008

How much trust do you have for police or judges?

Filed under: General — MurrayBacon @ 6:21 pm

Happiness is really important, for an effective, relevant, working justice system.

Trust is key for happiest people in world

As economists probe better ways to measure well-being than pure wealth, they say the Danes — who are also among the world’s most prosperous people — have a tradition of equality and trust that is not widely replicated……….

OECD economist Justina Fischer — a German who has studied subjective well-being and its societal and economic correlations for many years — puts Denmark’s happiness down to the fact that people consume a relatively equal share of the wealth they generate, and trust each other. (more…)

FamilyFirst Family breakdown is costing NZ taxpayers $1 billion/year

Filed under: General — MurrayBacon @ 5:58 pm

Enforcing accountability and responsibility is essential for protecting children’s interests.

Stuff article

Family breakdown and decreasing marriage rates is costing New Zealand taxpayers at least $1 billion a year, according to new research.

Prepared by the New Zealand Institute of Economic Research (NZIER), the research was commissioned by Family First NZ.

“The study shows that the decline of marriage, New Zealand’s high teenage fertility rate, and our rate of solo parenthood is not just a moral or social concern but should also be a concern of government and policymakers,” said Family First NZ national director Bob McCoskrie. (more…)

Wed 15th October 2008

Women in Parliament

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 10:50 am

FYI, my email to Elections NZ, concerning their special section naming all women who have served in parliament:

I notice that your website has a special section entitled “Women in Parliament 1933-2005”. This section stands out because there is no similar section for other subgroups in parliament. There is a section about the number of Maori, Pacific and Asian MP’s but the information that provides is much less extensive than the women’s section; for example, the women’s section names every single woman who has served in parliament, her party, term of office etc.

While the increase in women’s political participation may be interesting, it is no more so than that of other sub-groups categorized by race, sexual orientation, socio-economic status or disability. Your favouritism towards women’s participation treats their contribution in parliament as somehow better, more significant or more laudable than that of men or other subgroups. I do not believe a reasonable case could be made that women’s contribution has been superior or especially laudable, and I object to the sexism demonstrated on your web site. A special women’s section in the absence of similar sections for other sub-groups denigrates the contribution of all others who have served in parliament.

I would like to know where the directive or initiative came from for this special treatment of women on your web site, and how maintenance of this sexist propaganda is funded.

Tue 14th October 2008

Rape Misinformation

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 8:37 pm

FYI, my letter to Dr McGregor, in relation to a recent case of false complaint in which the offender was, as usual, treated with undue leniency by the Court.

Dear Dr McGregor

You were quoted in the Waikato Times on 08.10.08 as follows:

“Dr Kim McGregor, director of Auckland-based group Rape Prevention Education, said that about 2-10 per cent of rape claims were false, but an estimated 91 per cent of sex attacks were not reported. Dr McGregor said false rape allegations were often triggered by traumatic experiences and questioned the benefit of prosecution in such cases.”

While you are entitled to your opinion and to express it, no doubt your position will be duplicitous. I am sure that you would not question the benefit of prosecution of male sexual offenders whose behaviour was triggered by traumatic experiences, as indeed is true for many of them. (more…)

Sat 11th October 2008

How to get the publicity and support for a men’s movement

Filed under: General — Julie @ 9:47 am

I noticed that the UK is doing quite well with a men’s movement and I think this group is making it’s voice heard.

Real Father’s for justice

Anyhow, while reading the relevant information on the Auckland City Council website I came across the pages for event organising and noticed that they will direct you and assist you with what you need to do and provide their expertise and experience.

One thing I have noticed in the community is the desire to get men’s issues out in the open and sometimes I think there are a few egos in the political scene wanting to receive some sort of credit for it. (more…)

Fri 10th October 2008

UK’s Largest Teachers’ Union Lobbies to Legalise Sex with Students

Filed under: Boys / Youth / Education,General,Law & Courts — Julie @ 7:57 pm

LONDON, October 9, 2008 (LifeSiteNews.com) – The largest UK teachers’ union wants the government to decriminalise sex with students who are over the legal age of consent. Chris Keates, the general secretary of the National Association of Schoolmasters Union of Women Teachers (NASUWT), said that teachers who have sex with pupils over the age of consent should not be placed on the sex offenders register. Keates called prosecution for statutory rape “a real anomaly in the law that we are concerned about.”

NASUWT complained that media reports had misrepresented their position. “To describe the NASUWT’s comments on this as ‘teachers want the right to bed pupils’ as one report has done, simply for pointing out an anomaly which criminalises a teacher but would leave any other adult free from prosecution for the same type of relationship, is a travesty.” (more…)

Elizabeth Herd – Sean’s Voice

Filed under: Domestic Violence — JohnPotter @ 10:18 am

My name is Elizabeth Herd.

I have a Myspace page titled Sean’s Voice. This page is in honor of my sweet grandson, Sean Michael Sowards who was tortured, abused and neglected leading to his murder by his own mother when he was just two and half years old. It was in June of 2007 (just last year) that we had to say good bye and bury this precious angel. This woman not only abused Sean, but also abused my son, Sean’s daddy over the eight years they were together. (more…)

Thu 9th October 2008

Feminist groups in NZ. I don’t get it!

Filed under: General — Julie @ 4:47 pm

I need help. Please help!

I made phone calls today as I always do now and then to groups. But groups seem independent IMO. I find it really hard to find groups that are anti male and yet we follow an ideology.

Is this ideology just a political thing? I am serious! Maybe I didn’t get a piece or 2?

Plunket in Auckland can’t figure how they boo’ed John Keys for they don’t think they work with children over 5 years of age and Banardos understand father’s issues. (more…)

Tue 7th October 2008

A personal note from Bob McCoskrie

Filed under: General — Julie @ 7:01 pm

Reality of Battle Hits Home

Events over the past weekend have reminded me of just how important it is to speak up on family issues.

Last Saturday night, four women dressed in black came to our family home in South Auckland and placed almost 1,000 plastic knives into our front lawn. They also taped an intimidating note on our front door relating to the knives (anonymous of course!). (more…)

It’s a rainbow alright!

Filed under: General — Julie @ 11:05 am

There has been one thing in particular that has stayed in my mind for the time I have known about men’s plight in New Zealand. It was told to me when I confronted some leaders of a well to do group in Auckland and argued that I think boys should be allowed to climb trees and be risk takers and fall over and scrape their knees and I think girls should be allowed to play with dolls and tea sets if they want to.

The arguments back were …. well, there wasn’t any because young men were around and spoke up themselves saying they liked being masculine. Why does a hairstyle have to be more important to males than being rough and tough? What is so wrong with sport and what is so wrong with not showing emotions all the time?

Anyhow, the sentence that I will never forget is, “I hope men don’t fall in line because that is the day we have socialism”. (more…)

Sun 5th October 2008

“No Smacking” has changed to “Smacking”

Filed under: General — Julie @ 11:06 pm

In a stunning turnaround, Green MP Sue Bradford has told parents that smacking is not a criminal offence and implied that groups like Barnardos, Plunket, Every Child Counts and politicians who have said that the aim of the law was to ban parents physically punishing their children are misleading the public.

In a media release from the Green party (29th September), Bradford says ‘smacking has never been a criminal offence, and still isn’t.’

Yet only last year, she told Newstalk ZB ‘it is already illegal to smack children but her bill removes a defence of reasonable force for the purpose of correction.’ (more…)

Fri 3rd October 2008

So, you ask, “Where do my child support payments go?”

Filed under: Child Support — Tigerseye @ 8:24 am

It’s no mistery that the $$ from late payment penalties do not go to custodial parant, but, where does it go?

This is an enlightening article…


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