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Father relieved abduction case is over

Wednesday, 29, Oct, 2008 4:04PM

The father of an eight-year-old boy at the centre of a high profile abduction case is relieved the ordeal has come to an end.

The boy was missing for five months after he was taken from Hamilton City Library two years ago.

Today his mother Kay Skelton and grandfather Dick Headley pleaded guilty to abduction at the High Court in Hamilton.

Court orders prevent the child’s father Chris Jones or his Lawyer Thomas Sutcliff speaking about the boy. However Mr Sutcliff says his client and his family are relieved, as they believe the matter could have been cleared up over a year ago.

Mr Sutcliff says the ordeal has drained his client financially and emotionally with the case going all the way to the Supreme Court.

Skelton and Headley will be sentenced in December.

Previous discussion on MENZ

Perspective:
After 5 or 600 women abductors in the last 20 years, 1 prosecuted when it could no longer be hidden from the public
Several men have been prosecuted, when number of men abductors is less than 100!
Generally the men kept the child for a few days, with little or no intention of totally destroying the child’s relationship to the other parent.
Most of the women abductors intended to put the child out of reach of the father forever!

Please draw your own conclusion about the integrity and skills of these familycaught “judges”!!!

As Ralph Nader said about a FORD car, the familycaught is unsafe at any speed.

Deterrence does require competent, timely, effective prosecutions.

Our children are worth protecting, from all abductors of any sex and (in my opinion) from these misleading, manipulative, devious, greedy, deviant “judges”. They lack knowledge about how to protect children and just play legal games for personal profit.

Note how they try protect their performance from informed public comment, by issuing gagging orders onto the father, whom they ripped off financially through the last 5 or so years. By doing this, they intend to protect their personal financial interests, which they have placed far far before the child’s “paramount” interests!!!!

They don’t want practices in the familycaught to improve or become competent, even by accident!

People of this ilk cannot be taken seriously, as protectors of children.
Best regards, MurrayBacon.

National Party leader John Key has promised Mr Dunne a seat around his cabinet table after the United Future leader yesterday ruled out supporting a future Labour government.

Its official a vote for United Failure is a vote for National. National has one view on Child Tax, lets get more draconian.All dads are deadbeats in the eyes of Judge Judy (Judith Collins) and we should be punished and United Failure will support this.

So guys if you want to be stopped at the border by Tax Officials and pay a truckload more Child Tax and have less time with your kids vote for National and their lackey United Failure.

You have a choice on election night and as it stands National and United Failure are a very dangerous option that will get votes from gullible men who need to look beyond pious platitudes and remember what has, or more importantly, has not been delivered.

To be frank if you support them you deserve what you get. Time for change guys vote-wise in 2008 and remember don’t flush your vote down the Dunney

Regards

Scrap

Here’s an example of how as men, in the very stressing times of a relationship break-up, we sometimes lead with our hearts and not our heads.  I am not condemning the actions of this poor chap. In fact I have considerable sympathy for him.  The teacher appears to have acted inappropriately in teaching the children of a woman he was having an affair with.  But I wasn’t there and don’t know the circumstances.  All I am saying his actions played into the hands of the opposite side and he found himself in jail for slapping his rival on the back and is now facing an assualt charge.  Hopefully, he will plead not guilty and rely on the jury’s common sense. (more…)

Hey, Boshier, check this out…

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4738796a11.html

Would we have a better family unit if we stopped Sunday trading?  This is a throw away question but I would like to know what everybody thinks.  I think a lot of parents are missing out on family time because of weekend work.  Let me know your thoughts…

Some food for thought :

Lyn Craig wants us to believe:

And overall .. Australian fathers spend an average of just under an hour between Monday
and Friday caring for the children .. with 90 per cent of that care done alongside the
mother

Compare this to the just published UK study:

Children who spend time with their fathers have a higher IQ .Children who spend large amounts of time with their fathers have higher IQs, according to a new study.

We hear nothing of the findings of a well researched longitudinal study from the UK that shows how important dads are to our kids development but plenty of Lyn’s Lunacy. Says something about how the media in NZ views fatherhood.

Regards
Scrap

A headline article in the latest newsletter of the NZ Psychological Society expresses delight that the number of complaints reaching the Psychos Board has fallen dramatically.  This has enabled an insurance company to reduce professional indemnity premiums for Family Court psychos.  However, don’t imagine this indicates any improvement in  Family Court psycho assessments.  Don’t imagine they have become any more ethical, less feminist or less male-bashing.  Quite the reverse from what many fathers report; often such reports are now required only to assess whether a father is feminized enough to allow his children to have him as a father.  As usual, many psycho reports simply amplify and give undeserved credibility towards all manner of allegations women make against ex partners.

The reason complaints are not getting to the Psycho Board is that a cosy little agreement was made between Boshier and the Board.  This produced a “practice note” that ordered all complaints about psychos to be dealt with in the first instance by the Family Court judge, who would decide whether the complaint should be referred on to the Board.  The judges are now so effectively stifling complaints that hardly any get through to the psychos professional body for proper scrutiny.  (more…)

Press Release by United Future at 12:57 pm, 21 Oct 2008

Reports today that Wellington Zoo has solved the mystery of who fathered their baby chimpanzee through a DNA paternity test perfectly highlight the ludicrousness of family law in New Zealand, according to UnitedFuture deputy leader, Judy Turner.

“It’s an insult that we extend monkeys the right to determine parentage in this country, but refuse that basic right to fathers and children. It is a disgrace that men have no right at all to get a simple DNA test to confirm whether they are the father or not,” says Mrs Turner. (more…)

While I don’t condone party political broadcasts on a forum like this I believe what happened last night is a positive step forward in our cause.

There I was sitting with 13 other candidates for Wellington Central with a crowd of maybe 200. I was the newbie in the room pressing flesh with the likes of Sue Kedgly, Stephen Franks and Grant Robertson. With Heather Roy to my right and Michael Appleby to my left I stood and gave my speech very nervously to the crowd. I swear they could actually hear my heart pumping while my hands were shaking like a leaf in a Wellington breeze. But I held my head up and let rip with the policies that I believe in whole heartedly.

Amongst other, less relative topics to this site, I let it be know that while the government is surgically removing the man from the family, several hundred thousand children are becoming Fatherless. Some on a day to day basis, and some – permanently. We will ABOLISH THE CHILD SUPPORT ACT, which is completely sexist and unfair legislation, in favour of a case by case approach. (more…)

Happiness is really important, for an effective, relevant, working justice system.

Trust is key for happiest people in world

As economists probe better ways to measure well-being than pure wealth, they say the Danes – who are also among the world’s most prosperous people – have a tradition of equality and trust that is not widely replicated……….

OECD economist Justina Fischer – a German who has studied subjective well-being and its societal and economic correlations for many years – puts Denmark’s happiness down to the fact that people consume a relatively equal share of the wealth they generate, and trust each other. (more…)