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Mon 31st August 2009

Dads weigh in over child support

Filed under: General — gh @ 8:51 am

Fathers are backing a Families Commission proposal for more shared parenting ahead of a review of the child-support scheme.

Inland Revenue will shortly release a discussion document on possible changes to the child-support scheme.

In response, the Families Commission has released an issues paper that suggests child support should be based on the needs and costs of the child, rather than on the income of the liable parent, and payments should be passed on to the parent who is getting the domestic purposes benefit or other social security benefit.

Jonathan Young, a former Father and Child Trust social worker and father of one, said the Families Commission proposals made sense and would be fairer for fathers.

He said most fathers with whom he had dealt wanted to support their children, but objected to paying money to Inland Revenue which did not help their children.

Thu 27th August 2009

New Dad requiring info on guardian rights

Filed under: Events,General — Robbie Kay @ 2:11 pm

Hi. Can someone plse advise where i can find info my rights on me now being a legal guradian. I have just won access for my 20month young daughter. By the end of the year I shoud be having her on a regular basis every second weekend. I need to know things like ‘ how do i go about requesting my ex partner for taking my daughter on holiday?’ ‘how long am i legally allowed to have her for holidays’ am to be advised on what schools she is to attend ?’ and what other things am i legally obliged to know about the raising of my daughter by my ex partner ??????

Wed 26th August 2009

Change the “Anti Smacking Law” Prime Minister

Filed under: General,Law & Courts — Julie @ 4:25 pm

Written by Barbara Faithful

Dr. Muriel Newman has produced the attached impressive editorial on the chicanery behind the smacking referendum and its aftermath. In my view some highlights of it are :-

Firstly, she points out that the 54% response rate to it (so derided by the anti-smacking lobby) “is almost the same as the turnout in the (2002) referendum which led to a change in New Zealand’s voting system from First Past the Post (FFP) to Mixed Member Proportional (MMP)….. (then) Some 55% of registered voters took part…and an overwhelming 85% voted to change the electoral system…70% of voters favoured MMP.”

Dr. Newman continues : “This referendum resulted with a 55% response rate and an 85% majority vote was deemed to be conclusive enough to trigger the second referendum, which changed New Zealand’s voting system. In fact at the time Mike Moore, then leader of the Labour Party, said of the result : ‘The people didn’t speak on Saturday, they screamed.’ Well, Mister Key, the public have once again screamed!” etc.

Waitakere Focus on Fathering Week ’09

Filed under: General — Brendon Smith @ 12:13 am

Starting on Monday, the third year of NZ’s greatest week!

Monday evening launch with Mayor Bob, photography
awards for local schoolchildren plus Rex McCann and
Harald Breiding-Buss, among others, as guest speakers.

Free Toolbox parenting nights with Pio Terei,
Fun in the Mall at Westfield Henderson all week,
Raising Teen girls and Raising teen boys evenings,
Dads and Babies seminar plus picnic on Fathers Day…

Visit www.Dad4life.co.nz for a full activities program,
invitations, maps, further details and events…

See also Lunchtime Lectures at Henderson Library…

Tue 25th August 2009

Women who strike fear into their partners

Filed under: General — Scrap_The_CSA @ 8:41 pm

In this mornings Hearld

Kiwi women are an unusually possessive lot – if you believe their partners.

A national survey reported today by the Families Commission has found that one in every seven Kiwi men say their partners get angry if they speak to other women, compared with only 9 per cent of women who say the same about their male partners……………

The commission’s principal analyst, Radha Balakrishnan, said the report would be sure to spark debate.

“There is some uncertainty over the nature of the questions – whether you have fear in there, whether you have adequate context,” she said.

Long-term studies of people born in Christchurch and Dunedin in the 1970s have also found similar proportions of men and women being assaulted by their partners, but crime and health statistics show men are responsible for the vast majority of serious violence.

The New Zealand report’s results differ from similar surveys in North America and Britain.

Once again a representative of the Familes Comission shows their bais against men and an ideology that views domestic violence from a flawed feminist perspective.

Good graphic here



Sun 23rd August 2009


Filed under: General — 1948 @ 8:56 pm

Hi all
Has any body been able to lay a charge against a woman with police on either false pretence, mental abuse, fraud,making a false statement? Or lay a protection order against a woman? It is a long story with me, but the latest is I have had a protection order placed on me from a person I have not spoken to, seen, or even know where she lives for two years!!! I am sixty one years old, never ever been to court in my entire life. Have two great daughters and four grandkids. I have been the victim of a malicious attack on me, my character and all the good strong great values I have passed on to my children. There has never, ever been any abuse of any kind in our lives. And, I can quite proudly say, I can not ever remember smacking any of my children.
I really do need some help with this, as I am prepared to not only standup for myself in this but all the good women that this person brings into disrepute. This latest episode also involved my home being invaded by police, my firearms confiscated and an order placed on me by a person that apparrently lives in Taranaki and I live in the B.O.P.
If someone can answer my question it would be much appreciated. And if someone can recommend a good honest lawyer, male or female I can approach to represent me would be great. I would also like to comment on a ” anger management course ” as a prerequisite on the placement of the protection order. If I had not filed a defence notice by a certain date, being ONE WEEK form the notice being servered on me, then I was required to attend an anger management course by law!!!! I find this absolutely abhorrent. Because as previously stated I have done nothing wrong at all, this person has been able to sware on a bible an affidavit that is false AND I am judged solely on that affidavit as being guilty.

Fri 21st August 2009

NZers vote ‘NO’ for smack as criminal offence

Filed under: General,Law & Courts — Julie @ 11:09 pm

Oh, yeah!!!! 😀

Almost 90 per cent of people who participated in a referendum asking New Zealanders whether smacking should be illegal have voted no, preliminary results show.

When you consider this referendum was about ‘the people‘ versus ‘the state‘ with all it’s power and tax payer money, this sure was a landslide.

Read more.

Is Women’s Refuge Covering Up for Ms Lui death

Filed under: General — gh @ 5:17 pm

1) In this article Refuge says education on protection orders needed : it is stated that the protection order could not be served on Ms Liu’s husband, Nai Yin Xue

2) In this article Violence in dumped toddler’s family it is stated that Mr Xue, a 54-year-old magazine publisher, last appeared in court in June, when he was convicted of assault, and reappeared for breaching a protection order.

Article 1:
Pumpkin case: Refuge says education on protection orders needed
5:00AM Friday Sep 21, 2007

Pumpkin case

* Stony silence as killer Xue sentenced
* Murderer Xue plans book

A leading New Zealand family law expert believes the death of An An Liu highlights the problems immigrants have in understanding how protection orders work when they are victims of domestic violence.

Forum of the Family 2009

Filed under: Events — Julie @ 3:44 pm


Last year, we had almost 200 delegates and over 60 organisations represented. This is an opportunity for pro-family pro-life pro-marriage organisations, scholars, lobby groups and individuals to come together to encourage and inspire each other, and be equipped to speak up for family issues in NZ.

The Forum on the Family is for anybody who;

Man’s status now that of slaves

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 11:49 am

This story jumped out at me yesterday. An older man takes exercise in the Rotorua Redwoods Forest, a huge public reserve. He’s a bit unusual in his manner. He dares to say “a good day for it” to a woman also exercising who passes by him on the track and this “made her nervous”. (more…)

Fri 14th August 2009

$1.5b owed in child support

Filed under: General — Scrap_The_CSA @ 1:15 pm

This mornings Dominion Post

Almost a third of liable parents are shunning child support obligations, the highest rate in five years. At June 30, the child support hole totalled $1.5 billion. Inland Revenue is chasing more than $527 million owed by parents, with more than $1 billion owed in penalties. Fathers in Manukau and Gisborne and mothers in Invercargill and Dunedin were the worst offenders. A third of all debt is from Kiwi parents living overseas.

This article is a skewed spin doctoring of child tax debt.

1) Only $527m in child tax is “owed”, the rest is penalties that go to the tax-womans coffers.

2) Dunne has had 9 years to resolve the “debt crises”, but has only managed to continue to grow the debt. His actions and his officals advice, which is implemented in Law to fix the problems always makes it worse. If any other group where treated like this it would not be tolerated.

Children’s Commissioner John Angus said parents had a moral and legal obligation to pay. Parents were not meeting their responsibilities to their child when they elected not to pay.

“Children can get a message the non-custodial parent doesn’t care about them and how they are getting on, because they don’t care enough to make a financial contribution for them,” Dr Angus said.

I would suggest that this is reflective of the level of understanding of the Familes Commission on the subject of Child Tax – they dont have a clue what they are talking about.  Agnus reduces the support of children to some English poor law notion from the 19th Century . Children never see any of the Child Tax paid, and in many cases dont see the paying parent but that has no relationship at all to weather a parent cares about his child or not. His statement is filled with biasis and assumption not reality and fact.

Mr Dunne said a Government review of the child support system was under way and would assess the actual cost of raising a child, how payments were measured and whether the system was fair, and would propose changes

The review is by people whose type of thinking created the current mess – Officials and The Families Comission – The reality is that new thinking is required.

As Enenstien tells us ” We can’t solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them”

My message to Dunne and Agnus is simple : Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.





Tue 11th August 2009

Birthday Wishes for my Son

Filed under: General — uktuatara @ 8:14 pm

I sent an email to my son today on his birthday and share it only becuase it will hopefully remind us all what wonderful children we have, I am not seeking any credit or back patting for this, just thought you might like to hear it.

Dear *edited*,

It is seven years ago today that I held you for the first time, and I knew then that you would become an amazing kid, and then grow up to become an exceptional man.  I am so excited to see this coming true.

My son, I wish you the very best birthday anyone could ever have.  I love you more with each passing day, your brother and you are everything to me.  You are the reason I get up in the morning, and the reason I work so hard to see that your future is exciting, full of adventure and has the potential to fulfil every dream you have.

I want to tell you once again, that the reason I left your Mum to live a happier life was NOTHING to do with anything you had done, it was in fact because I wanted you to have a happy start to life, and through the tears you have cried, and the hugs we have shared, you will begin to understand.  You can ALWAYS ask me whatever you like, and I will always answer honestly.

Now that *edited* is in my life, to help me be the best Dad I can be, we commit that we will do everything we can to make your life a success.  She loves you intensely and will be your support whenever you need someone to hug or talk to.  Together we are cool little family, and I can’t wait for the adventures we will all have together.  I love her so much, and I thank you for letting her be a part of our future.

Remember when you are not at Dad’s that you must respect your Mum and treat her with the same manners and behaviour I would expect at my house, I know you can do this because you have very high values my son.

I loved being your teacher for a day, if I was able to do it everyday, I would.

I love you *edited*, you are a great young man destined for great things.

Your Dad

Wed 5th August 2009

Lundy Bancroft Seminar – re: Shaping our Radical Feminist Future

Filed under: Domestic Violence — Julie @ 10:16 am

I was fortunate enough to receive free entrance to the workshop on Domestic Violence by Hamilton Abuse Intervention Project.

My day started with a map showing directions to the venue. OK, so all who know me well know I always get lost and some of you know how I end up far away and asking for directions from strangers on the side of the road. Well, strangers in the city is a funny thing because people know how to get there but are unsure how to describe the way. Anyhow, I finally arrived moments before morning tea.

Being prepared with 30 copies of over 100 pages of documentation proving women are more violent than men from Paul Catton, East Auckland Men’s Refuge, who made the most incredible 5 star meal for me when I picked up all his hard work and copying, I started my work; finding out who was who.

“Hello, who are you and what group are you from?” was the start of my awesome discussions. “Do you have something for male victims of domestic violence?” was my second question after I introduced myself and that I was involved with ‘Auckland Single Parent’s’ group. (more…)

Tue 4th August 2009

Male Education Workshop

Filed under: Events — Julie @ 7:50 am

Are today’s boys and young men more destructive and out of control?

What can we do to ‘hook’ boys in to learning and raise their achievement? Do we have different standards and expectations for boys and girls?

The workshop will answer these questions by examining a number of powerful ideas. These ideas impact on young males whether they are at preschool, primary, secondary, university or starting work.

  • Boys have wonderful qualities which need to be recognised and developed
  • Boys require rules, responsibilities, consequences, challenges and expectations.
  • School is wherever a boy can learn
  • Movement and the outdoors are crucial in a boy’s learning and development
  • The relationship between teacher and boy is a crucial factor for learning
  • There are powerful influences (entertainment, role models) in our homes and communities that harm our boys.
  • (more…)

    Mon 3rd August 2009

    Domestic Violence – from Ideology to Inclusion

    Filed under: General — Julie @ 5:42 pm

    Should Domestic Violence in New Zealand be portrayed as men are batterers and women are victims? Should we really be shown one sided abuse through Family Violence campaigns, policies, advertisements on TV and radio? Should our laws, police work and community care reflect this Ideology of men are bad and women are good?

    Here is something worth watching to gain some perspective of what’s going on with Domestic Violence and Ideology from Paul Elam aka avoiceformen.com


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