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Wed 6th September 2006

‘Most parents’ agree courts should award care to mums

Filed under: General — tonyf @ 6:55 am

Wednesday September 6, 2006
By Chris Barton

Mothers get the majority of day-to-day care of children in parenting orders made by the Family Court, but new statistics indicate that’s the way most parents want it.

The gender-based statistics released by the court for the first time since 1990 show 65 per cent of day-to-day care (previously called custody) orders are awarded to mothers, 11 per cent to fathers, about 12 per cent to another party, and that 12 per cent share the care.

Tue 5th September 2006

Opinions on Misandry (male sexism) requested

Filed under: General — JohnPotter @ 12:55 pm

Hi John,

My name’s Andy and I’m a writer for Wellington’s student magazine Salient. I am researching an article on Misandry (male sexism), and am seeking to get some opinions for my article. I found your website on google and after a casual read through the material, I believe your [readers’] opinions would be valuable for this article.

The questions I am interested in asking are:

  • Do you feel that society is becoming (or has become) sexist toward men?
  • Can you cite examples where you think this is happening (or if you don’t agree, why you don’t)?
  • What are some of the contemporary issues facing men in New Zealand? (And why do you think they’re issues?)

Like I said, I’m going through your website, and there’s a lot of good material there. If there’s anything else you feel would be useful to represent your position I’d love to hear it.

I’d appreciate it if you could post my request. All the research I’m doing leads to the conclusion that this is still a grass-roots concern, and there’s a lot of discussion that’s not reaching the public sphere.

Dunne must Resign.

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 12:40 am

The worm has turned on Turner.

The worm may have given Peter Dunne a critical edge, when he mentioned fathers, just before an election, but Turner has only just realised they are guilty of selling out the family, fathers and failing some of our most vulnerable children, those whose lives have been ripped apart by the avarice and ideology of a corrupt family court. It has just dawned upon United Future that the rise of the Republicans will be the end of the political road of United Future. A hasty press release today by deputy leader Turner, the day after Fathers Day 2006, will be the epitaph of United Future, the party that didn’t deliver. You had your opportunity, you didn’t deliver, and now the Republicans are going to do what you didn’t do. How many ways has your leader failed?
He has failed Fathers.
He has failed Families.
He has failed Children.
He has failed to uphold the principles of his party.
He fails his country by supporting a corrupt Government.

The Republicans are calling for Dunne to do the honourable thing.

Resign.

Mon 4th September 2006

Turner calls for cool heads over Family Court

Filed under: Law & Courts — JohnPotter @ 7:03 pm

United Future NZ media release – Family Court Protests

United Future deputy leader Judy Turner has today asked for restraint from future Family Court protestors in the wake of the noisy demonstration outside Helen Clark’s Auckland home on Saturday.

“While I share many of the concerns of the father’s rights activists who stage these protests, I do not condone the threatening and aggressive nature of such action,” said Mrs Turner.

In the past there have been similar demonstrations outside the homes of Family Court judges and barristers.

“Although I believe the actions of some protestors are a little over the top, they must be brought into context. These men feel as though they are being let down by the Family Court system.

“Many men see these types of protests as the only way that their stories and concerns can be heard within a cultural environment where they feel forgotten.

“I am committed to helping to change this situation. I am aware of many cases where men have complained of unfair treatment because of a gender bias that exists in the Family Court.

“The fact that men often feel on the backfoot in the Family Court environment is of real concern and it is not helpful when people are dismissive of the concerns of fathers.

“Even the fact that fathers choose to protest in this way demonstrates the desperation men feel for support and mediation when facing Court proceedings,” concluded Mrs Turner.

ends

Anyone got a better idea.

Filed under: General,Men's Health — Downunder @ 3:21 pm

I don’t profess to be a seasoned veteran of the men’s movement but here is the benefit of my observations from the last few years. Small groups and to name three of recent times FARE, UOF, PARENTSANDCHILDREN, are vote catchers for mainstream political parties. Anyone who attempts to take one of these organisations beyond that status will be cut off at the knees.

Any event likely to create a politically undesirable situation is easily sabotaged, and is and has been done so by political parties, many times in the past. If you do manage to create a relatively apolitical organisation like for example Separated Fathers, or Men’s Centre North Shore your chances of being funded outside of your own pocket is very limited.

The promise of change — hell even the Greens promised to reform the Family Court in 1999 election. If you want change it is not about voting for promises it is about understanding the effect of the policy of the political party you vote for, and looking past the media bullshit. If we have learnt something from our British counterparts, it is a waste of time creating a single issue political party.

If those of you who feel equally frustrated about this continual cycle of defeat, you may wish to do what many of us have done. Last year a few of us created The Republic of New Zealand Party. It was small beginnings, but it is about creating a complete political party that is focused on restoring the integrity of NZ society. Past mid 2006 we have 2 years or less to gain sufficient political support to obtain representation in parliament. It is entirely possible, but only possible if you are prepared to get out from behind your computer and put your energy, and your independent expertise into building a political party that has the policies you want.

Personally I don’t enjoy the politics we endure in this country, in fact I don’t even like this country the way it is, and the only reason I remain is because I have children who are not old enough to make independent decisions about where they want to live. While I am here then I will commit my energy to the republicans and I can only hope that many of you might consider doing the same thing.

The other side of Fathers Day.

Filed under: General,Men's Health — Downunder @ 9:59 am

For many NZ men this is a day they would rather avoid. It is a day they will not hear from their children. Children are born selfish and hopefully learn to grow out of it, so do not see fathers day in the same light as Christmas — they are opportunistic.
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IVF and donor conception

Filed under: Child Support,General — JohnPotter @ 9:21 am

Has anyone got any info in response to the following enquiry from a student?

Hi there,

I was just browsing around on your interesting looking site for the men’s perspective on IVF and donor conception. This seems to be a bit of an under represented opinion in mainstream media, so if you know of any good NZ websites which cover this issue, I would love to know about them.

Just in case you are wondering, I am a student, trying to write an essay which encompasses all perspectives on the issue – I’m just having trouble finding info from all perspectives!

Cheers for your help,

Angeline

Sun 3rd September 2006

Happy fathers’ day.

Filed under: General — Darryl Ward @ 5:16 pm

Many of you who read this will be fathers and you will be spending some or all of today with your children. This is a day to celebrate your role, a role that all too often is not only overlooked and underestimated, but undermined and maligned.

This is a day for all of you to be thanked for all that you have done for your children, whether it was sacrificing precious time (that you would rather have spent with them) working to ensure that there was bread on the table, or spending a weekend building a doll’s house.

This day is for all fathers.

This day is to dispel the negative and terribly wrong stereotypes surrounding fathers.

This day is to remember that children need love and care from both their mothers and their fathers.

This day is to acknowledge the selfless love and sacrifice of our own fathers.

For some of you though, this will not be a happy day, for you will not have any contact with your children. All you will have is a cherished memory, a dog-eared photograph, or perhaps a three-year old card, handwritten in crayon with bad spelling, which is now stained with tears.

If you are a father and this day overwhelms you with sadness, remember that even though they cannot be with you, your children will still be thinking of you on this very special day.

If you are a father, have a happy fathers’ day. You deserve it.

If you are not a father, please pass this on to someone who is…. maybe your own father.

Happy fathers’ day.

Darryl Ward

3 September 2006

www.dward.tk

Sat 2nd September 2006

The PMS Blair Which Project?

Filed under: General — Intrepid @ 3:59 pm

Dateline: London
Author: Pit Bull
Via: The Honor Network

One step forward a dozen steps back; I have just watched Tony Blair on the CNN tube and heard him test the waters for a new sweeping plan being thought up by his legions of gray suited weasels and their nanny feminist cohorts to intervene in the family at the earliest of ages to stop anti-social behavior & dysfunctional practices. Of course the problems stemming from future unforeseen problems are endless in this new grab for total control of the family, but this has never stopped social engineering from pro-nanny feminists and their mommas boys before!

After at first undermining the traditional ideas of the family, and that of private institutions & religions for decades (except the Moslem ones that have too many angry males who will fight over any knit-picking changes with rage), it now wishes to fix these problems it has caused with just more of the same- and I do mean “more of the same!” The father’s role, the cornerstone of the family, as many of the readers know on all of these men’s rights forums, is now deemed optional (like a floppy disk on your old desktop). The ever-expanding nanny state now has “seen the light” and recognizes the many problems in the families of England today. Aghast!
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Domestic violence goes both ways, study finds

Filed under: General — tonyf @ 10:56 am

Finally, a study based on reality rather than fantasy

Domestic violence goes both ways, study finds

Saturday August 19, 2006

Where only one partner in a relationship is violent, it is more likely to be the woman, University of Otago researchers have found.

Researcher Kirsten Robertson, of the university’s psychology department, said the finding indicated a change of thinking was required on domestic violence.

“But there are always campaigns aimed at stopping male violence – we need to accept no violence.”

People tended to find female violence amusing.

I find that comment particularly disturbing

“When asked, ‘does a man deserve to be hit’, women often laugh. They said they did often deserve it as they did things that wound you up.”

Indicitive of a culture which condones, laughs it off, minimises female on male violence

Fri 1st September 2006

A Song For Helen

Filed under: General — dpex @ 9:39 pm

The vocals below are sung to Pink Floyds ‘The Wall’.

Imagine 100, 500, 1000 voices singing this song via th PA system.

We don’t need no Intervention.

We don’t need no State Control.

Hey!

Hey Stealers!

Leave our kids alone.

We don’t need Protection Orders.

Used to get the DPB.

Hey!

Stealers!

Leave our families be.

We don’t need the Feminazis.

Hatred Hatred is their game.

Hey!

Stealers!

You deserve your shame.

We don’t need no Intervention.

We don’t need no State Control.

Hey!

Hey Stealers!

Leave our kids alone.

Repeat………………ad nauseum.

I’ll bring along some copies for tomorrow.

Cheers
David.

Thu 31st August 2006

IRD makes its own rules.

Filed under: Child Support,General,Law & Courts — Downunder @ 11:54 am

In an attempt to reduce the escalating child support arrears figure the IRD has resorted to making up its own rules. Don’t be surprised if you find the IRD behaving in an illegal manner. Either someone in Government has said forget the rules, just get the money, or there is a vigilantly group operating within the IRD out to get those so called errant fathers who refuse to pay their child tax.

Either way this reflects badly on revenue minister Peter Dunne. This is an issue currently before a select committee which leaves no excuse for such tyrannical behaviour.

The Protection Order weapon rises again.

Filed under: General,Law & Courts — Downunder @ 11:27 am

It is only a few years back when we had fathers being jailed for sending a Christmas card or a Birthday card to their children, when there was a protection order in place. Now protection orders are being used to prosecute fathers who use their own websites to express their grief and anxiety at the loss of their children. You might ask why don’t we do the democratic thing and make a submission to parliament about this. Well back in the days of Christmas card prisoners I did just that. I made a submission to the social services select committee on protection orders. Normally you would receive a response to a submission, but in this case I didn’t, so I rang the clerk and asked if he had received the submission.

His reply “all I can say to you is that I have been instructed not to talk to you.”

Now you wonder why fathers protest outside private residences?

Sun 27th August 2006

Book: ‘Rethinking Domestic Violence’

Filed under: Domestic Violence — JohnPotter @ 11:55 am

by Donald Dutton, 2006. UBC Press, Canada

‘Rethinking Domestic Violence’ is the third in a series of books by Donald Dutton critically reviewing research in the area of IPV (intimate partner violence).

Book cover: 'Rethinking Domestic Violence' by Donald Dutton

After 20 years of viewing IPV as generated by gender and focusing on a punitive “law and order” approach, Dutton argues that this approach must be more varied and flexible. Treatment providers, criminal justice system personnel, lawyers, and research is have indicated the need for a new view of the problem – one less invested in gender politics and more open to collaborative views and interdisciplinary insights.

Preface xi

[This book] is a modern history of social intervention on a specific problem that shows how such intervention can be misguided by the political conceptualization of the problem. It would be preferable to see policy made by pragmatists and “dust bowl” empiricists who are willing to set and undo policy on the basis of what the data tells them about success and failure, rather than on attempts to prolong an ideological view.

After a thorough review of the history of the spouse assault in chapter 1, Dutton introduces a framework which allows a far more nuanced analysis than the ‘ one-size-fits-all’ feminist approach which proclaims all male violence against women to be an evil symptom of patriarchal society.
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Fri 25th August 2006

Letter to Steve Gill

Filed under: General — dpex @ 9:40 pm

Background.

Jason and Vikki have been doing fighting with Jason’s Ex, impressions.

Vikki sets up a vid-cam to record the next visit of the Ex, the collect the child.

Vikki loses it. But thinks the vid will help to get Gill to see the nature of the Ex.

Gill sees evidence supporting the Ex, so he produces the vid in court. Jason and Vikki are his clients, not the Ex.

He asserts he just ‘had too’ on account of he’s an officer of the court.

Turns out CYF wrote a report on the Ex, highlighting her less than lucid state. Gill refuses to produce this in court.

Then, at the eleventh hour (Jason and Vikki are up for a final judgement, whereupon Jason will lose his son unless something good happens) Gill files to remove himself from the case!
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Thu 24th August 2006

New Zealand Men State Slaves.

Filed under: Child Support,General,Law & Courts,Men's Health — Downunder @ 7:33 am

The New Feminasty Weapon.

Mr Cullen right under the nose of family and faith Minister Peter Pinocchio Dunne, has created the Office of the Commissioner of Inland Revenue. We no longer have an independent authority tasked with managing the revenue affairs of the country, but another Feminist Machine, and if you hadn’t previously headed the warnings of James Nicole, then you should revisit and understand post haste.

In New Zealand Men are now Slaves of the State.

Wed 23rd August 2006

A Personal

Filed under: General — dpex @ 10:19 pm

In amongst all the misery we endure, there are a few humourous points.

Here’s one.

After being beaten emotionally senseless by Yula I kind’ve decided being single was probably a better idea. I mean, poking up one’s butt for the sole purpose of finding out how sharp the next rasp will be is a negative proposal.

So I had accepted a future of soleness. I’m pretty happy with my own company so it wasn’t such a hard choice.

But I hadn’t factored in the world of chance.

A bit of background.

About 30 years ago I wandered into an office. I was lost and looking for directions. A youngish (actually 2 years older than I) woman sat behind her corporate desk. In an instant of a look I knew this woman (Julie) was to be my wife. And she became so.

I had absolutely zero information upon which to make this judgement. I hadn’t even opened my mouth, nor she hers. It was just one of those events in life.

Twenty eight years later we separated but have remained great friends.
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First Blood

Filed under: General — dpex @ 9:45 pm

Just had a call from a couple in Wellington. Being seriously put upon by the FC and their own lawyer.

I recommended an immediate change of lawyer, and emailed Jim to put this shit on the hit-list for botherings.

Anyway…..

The Ex is doing ‘I believe. I think. Maybe. It could be possible,’ impressions. Standard crap. Given this couple will soon find a new and loyal advocate lawyer who will then wave Asher J’s judgement under the careless nose of the FC judge involved, all will come out well for this couple and the little boy.

You see, ‘I believe. I think. Maybe. It could be possible,’ etc, is no longer and acceptable plaint even in the FC.

Good eh?

Lastly, I shall be most interested to see Jim’s take on Mr Steven Gill, (I’ve given Jim the low-down which I can’t do here…for obvious reasons) FC Lawyer, Wellington, once he has the low-down. But if what the couple told me tonight is even half true, this rooster is due for a sex-change whereupon he can become a card-carrying member of the feminazi movement.

Lastly, lastly. The couple got onto me through JP’s site. This site. Ergo, this site is gaining traction, as are all the things the various of us are doing in our own quiet…and sometimes noisy :–)) way.

Extra cool, huh?

Cheers
David

Chalk Up One More Piece of Science that Weakens Another Feminist Myth

Filed under: General — Intrepid @ 4:11 pm

Author: Pit Bull On the National Bureau Of Economic Research Paper
Via: The Honor Network

From the Biological Gender Differences, Absenteeism and the Earning Gap

In most Western countries illness-related absenteeism is higher among female workers than among male workers. Using the personnel dataset of a large Italian bank, we show that the probability of an absence due to illness increases for females, relative to males, approximately 28 days after a previous illness. This difference disappears for workers age 45 or older. We interpret this as evidence that the menstrual cycle raises female absenteeism. Absences with a 28-day cycle explain a significant fraction of the male-female absenteeism gap. To investigate the effect of absenteeism on earnings, we use a simple signaling model in which employers cannot directly observe workers’ productivity, and therefore use observable characteristics — including absenteeism — to set wages. (more…)

Tue 22nd August 2006

Female Violence

Filed under: Domestic Violence — dpex @ 10:18 pm

I have to begin by saying I’m not exactly proud of having to admit to having been a victim of domestic violence; seeing as how I’m a big boy (6-1 in my sox, strong, and with several martial arts to my credit).

Meet Yula (pronounced Yura). 40. A Korean beauty. In NZ with 3 kids looking for a way to stay. I end up being the ‘very’willing dupe.

I discovered, albeit some eighteen months later and several half-hearted considerations of suicide, that this ‘beauty’ was actually what is known as a socialised psychopath; ergo, a Hannibal Lecter with self-preservation instincts denying her the ability to simply squash out the life of any who disobeyed.

Yura set the hook in my lamentably niaive mouth, tugged gently for three long and unbelievable months, then hauled back hard when it wass clear the hook had gone down well past my throat.

For the following fifteen months I was subjected to almost constant emotional violence of a level and type I found so incomprehensible that I was rendered incapable of breaking the spell. This was interspersed with rounds of physical and sexual violence.
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Poisoned Prose

Filed under: Domestic Violence — JohnPotter @ 7:37 pm

My friend Dave has just posted a critique on his website of a recent NZ Herald article:
Attitudes change towards old taboo

Before we go any further, let me make it quite clear where I stand on violence: I don”t believe it is OK for men to hit women. I don’t believe it is OK for women to hit men.

Nor do I believe that the common combination of intimidation, verbal harassment, putdown, windup, and so forth that often accompanies, or serves instead of, physical violence is OK, from either sex.

I believe it is sometimes appropriate for parents to use physical means to discipline children, but not to the extent that physical injury occurs.

So when an article like the one below appears in the Herald, ostensibly part of a media campaign to raise awareness about family violence, why does my stomach crawl?

My stomach crawls because the article is a piece of anti-male shit. It is a piece of anti-male shit despite the fact that its author is apparently male, and despite its ostensible focus on “family” violence.

Read the rest of ‘Poisoned Prose’ at wudhi.com

Fri 18th August 2006

Was that well Dunne, well Dunne!, or well Dunne?

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 10:12 pm

Sounds like the Honourable Mr Cullen could do with some anger management to calm the halls of power. Wonder why he has been throwing little missy fits this week.
Perhaps it’s because David Parker found out that the position of Attorney General was the first WMD (weapon of male destruction) in the feminasty arsenal and promptly handed it back to Mr Cullen. Perhaps Mr Cullen is the real Minister of Revenue and what has been well Dunne until now, might now be well Dunne!, or well Dunne? Perhaps it’s another hat for Mr Cullen to wear again in the game of merry go round minister, that’s if he has finished playing marionette Minister, with the leader of United Future.

Perhaps the realisation has become a reality to the heartland of the labour camp.
The NZ Labour party has been high jacked again, and the real insult to the party faithful this time is that it has been by an ideology that never had truth to offer as first casualty in a conflict constructed of subjective twaddle.

The trade mark officiousness of the Brown Skirts and Jack Boots with the expectation of instant obedience is long overdue for a decent burial. After a winter of discontent perhaps 2006 will deliver a spring of reason, winds of change, and an early election.

Wouldn’t it be nice to have our country back again?

Pretend Minister Dunne.

Filed under: Child Support,General,Law & Courts — Downunder @ 8:37 am

Watch out for bogus IRD documents.

It would appear that who ever is the real revenue minister has instructed a group of child support staff to issue documents outside of the authority of the commissioner. The most noticeable difference is that there is no document location number on the bottom of the page. You will also find that documents may not follow normal IRD procedure and time frames.

If you have any doubt about the authenticity of your child support documents especially admin review documents report the matter to your local CIB. They will contact the IRD who must confirm to the police whether they are IRD documents or not.

Once you have done this make a ministerial complaint to pretend Minister Dunne, who will try to pass the complaint back to the IRD. The IRD is responding to another minister and so Mr Dunne is not able to investigate the complaint and the IRD will not respond to him.

It is important to expose Mr Dunne for the fraud that he is, and the manner in which our New Zealand Inland Revenue Department is being used.

Mon 14th August 2006

Gawd….A breif Synopsis as requested.

Filed under: General — dpex @ 7:24 pm

For those of you who wish to use the Appeal Court Judgement [referred to below], the reference is CIV2006-404-3522.

1998. Met mother (purely business related). Atr the time I was happily married.

Then wife wanted a grandchild. Neither of our adult children were interested in providing.

Six months after meeting mother, I met the child. Told wife about child. Wife met child. One thing led to another and we found ourselves able to dote on a dot (aged 3.5 years).

1999. The relationship between child and wife and I developed into a quasi-grand-parent/child thing. Not by design, it just happened.

2000. It became apparent the mother had neither the time, nor money, nor interest in providing the child with all those things a child deserves…The list is too long to record here. We could, we wanted to, the mother was happy to have us do so.

2000 till now. Got separated in 2000. Assumed the mother would not allow me to continue relationship. Wrong. Mother quite happy. Child developing really well.

Over the years since I have been almost entirely responsible for all aspects of the child’s development. I attend to all matters to do with school, sport, music, and much else. For risk of identifying the parties I am unable to explain why the mother has been unable to do any of this. Save to say, no person at the child’s school, her music teacher, her football or swimming coaches, would recognise the mother because she has never attended any meeting with such folk and has never attended ‘any’ event the child has attended. school included.
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Sat 12th August 2006

The Appeal

Filed under: Law & Courts — dpex @ 7:33 pm

First. Thanks to all of your for the congratulations.

I have been forced to live through an appalling time for these last six months, never knowing who will coming banging on the door to swipe the kids. Never knowing the outcome of the ‘next’ court hearing. And living in a perpetual state of intense stress.

I had to place my considered faith in someone other than myself, and I did. Hooker. Without wishing to seem as if I’m blowing smoke up his arse, I can say I have never noticed that faith waver. I had made up my mind I had the best possible defender and that win,lose, or draw, neither he nor I could do more than as much as we could do.

I would have thought no less of his skill had we failed in the High Court.

The Judgement.

Prefacing this tome, and in very large black letters is the caution that no part of this judgement may be revealed except by….and goes on to list a few exceptions.

I am not sure if this embargo will remain in place once the case is entirely complete.

But on Monday I shall ask Hooker how I can best go about providing a copy of it to all those needing it.

However, what I can report is the judgement has now set a proper standard of proof for all interlocutory applications such as Custody orders, Restraining orders, Non-association orders, Wardship orders, etc.

This judgement will have far-reaching affects on all future FC orders, including final orders. Although I am clearly restrained from providing specific data, you may all be very assured it has taken 99% of the bounce out of the Kangaroo Court, AKA, the FC.
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