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Mon 15th May 2006

Pay equity, violence against women

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 8:12 am

New Zealand rates well in improving the status of women but more needs to be done in the areas of violence against women, and pay and employment equity, a new report says.

Ms Dalziel said the level of violence against women in New Zealand was “intolerable”.

Ms Dalziel said the Government was addressing these issues but in most cases attitudinal change was required “which the Government cannot legislate”.

I wonder if women actually get a say in their status, or are they just expected to comply with feminist expectations of how they should live their lives.

Sun 14th May 2006

Trial Time

Filed under: General — dpex @ 6:35 pm

This week is ‘the’ week folks.

If the CYFSterhood keep pushing for the ex-parte, and get it, then we’ll kick it up to the High Court and get it turned. Same-day service. :–))

Either way, this week if the CYFSterhood want their way heard, then heard it will be. But this time at a full, substantive hearing, whereupon their collective hallucinations will be aired and treated with the derision they deserve.

It’s either that or they go no further.

But these venal women are now so worked up at the fact that a mere male has had the timerity to attempt contradiction that they are now frothing at the mouth….A little like King John must have done when the locals told him they withdraw their collective support until he signed the Magna Carter.

‘Mere Knights telling ME what to do?’…….said John.

‘Mere males contradicting our imperialism?’… say the CYFSterhood.

Oh yes. But we’re all up for a good stouche, or up for the CYFSterhood recognising they are actually little more than pimples on the arse of society, and simply go away.

But this week is when it should all happen.

And when it’s happened? Then I go to work with all the plans I have made to make their collective lives as miserable as possible.

The role-call for potential visitations are, Judith Surgenor, The Loon (again) Lizzie Curtis, Anna Palmer, Betty Whakatau.

BTW: Bit of humour. Whakatau means (come here). But it’s okay Betty, you don’t need to come to us. We’ll come to you; all in good time.

BTW2: When I rang Betty Come Here on Feb 10th, her 13 year-old daughter answered the phone and told me mother was out for the night.

Isn’t it illegal to leave a 13 year-old at home in charge of the baby I could hear crying in the background?

Maybe someone should call CYFS!

I’ll let you know folks.

Cheers
David.

Alarm bells should be ringing loudly

Filed under: General — JohnPotter @ 6:07 pm

Australian Lawyers Weekly: Aus criticism of NZ sex cases ‘justified’

A recent Federal Court of Australia decision to block the extradition of two Catholic clergymen to New Zealand to face trial for alleged historical sex crimes has sparked outcry from defenders of New Zealand’s criminal law and procedure. But other commentators have concluded that the decision is sadly justified.

Bernard Robertson, editor of The New Zealand Law Journal, said Justice Madgwick acknowledged that it was exceptional to find it would be “oppressive and unjust” to refuse extradition to a friendly country with a similar legal system, and required the accused to discharge a heavy evidential burden.

“When a respected judicial neighbour not only recognises problems likely to give rise to unsafe trials, but is reluctantly driven to criticise the way New Zealand conducts its trials, then alarm bells should be ringing loudly,” Judith Ablett-Kerr QC said.

The Judge found various circumstances about the case meant the Brothers could not receive a fair trial by Australian standards, given that delays, and the loss of potential witnesses and documents, had resulted in serious presumptive, and actual, prejudice to them.

Ablett-Kerr said the decision criticises the New Zealand approach to several procedural and evidential matters which, in the view of that Court, are likely to increase the probability of an accused person in New Zealand not receiving a fair trial.

something seriously wrong here

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 4:57 pm

You can just tell there is something seriously wrong with this country when you read this in the News Paper.

Being a mother is a way of helplessly measuring time.

Girls killing Girls.

Filed under: General,Law & Courts — Downunder @ 4:42 pm

A homicide inquiry has been launched after the death of a 16-year old girl in Turangi over night.

The girls — who were known to each other — had come across each other in a residential street about 11.55pm, yesterday.

Turangi Detective Sergeant Neale Saunders said a 16 year old girl had been charged with assault and further charges were expected to be laid.

I wonder how many girls under 18 years have been charged with murder in New Zealand before?

World Draft Programme

Filed under: General,Law & Courts,Men's Health — Downunder @ 2:42 pm

Guaranteeing the effective recovery of maintenance, in Europe and in the World

Draft programme of the Joint Conference European Commission Hague Conference on Private International Law Brussels, 12, 13 and 14 January 2006Thursday 12 January 2006 14 h. — 14 h. 30 Reception of participants14 h. 45 Welcoming wordsN… (European Commission); Hans VAN LOON (Hague Conference on PrivateInternational Law).

THEME 2: EFFECTIVE ACCESS TO PROCEEDINGS

Speaker: Jan Marie DOOGUE (New Zealand)

Link

Daddy of the Fathers Coalition

Filed under: Boys / Youth / Education,General,Law & Courts,Men's Health — Downunder @ 1:03 pm

Daddy of the Fathers Coalition

Tim Hume – Sunday Star Times, quotes Jim Bailey.

“We haven’t got the PR power these guys have – we wouldn’t need the demos if we did,” he says. “It’s about getting in the door of the Family Court and government, getting MPs listening to us. There’s no such thing as bad publicity.”

We have the power to publish – We must protect not only our children, but also the future of our state, if we would have our children respect our lives while we are in our twilight years.

Foreign brides swamp refuges

Filed under: Domestic Violence,General,Law & Courts — Downunder @ 10:12 am

Stuff: Foreign brides swamp refuges

‘Men are legally allowed to bring them into the country and beat them senseless. We’re setting them up to be abused.’
Heather Henare, Women’s Refuge national manager

Sat 13th May 2006

Family Court Statistics 2004

Filed under: General,Law & Courts — Downunder @ 11:54 pm

New Zealand Ministry of Justice: Family Court Statistics 2004

Where does the Herald stand?????

Filed under: General — triassic @ 6:05 pm

Weekend HERALD JURY

The Charge: Fathers’ rights activists who protest outside judges’ homes are resorting to bullying tactics.

The Herald polls seven as giving a verdict of guilty. However, when I read what they say it is only three who say “guilty”

Surprise, surprise!!! The harshest is Lawyer, Brian Gubb. He states:

‘while this sad little group “protest”, the other 99.9% of separated fathers get on with caring for and supporting their children.’

I would have expected that from any of the eleven other people questioned who don’t work in the family court industry, but Mr Gubb!!!! Is this Pratt totally ignorant? Most fathers deprived of their children are now living overseas, unable to bear the pain of separation and injustice of the system. They now are starting a new life.

Perhaps Mr Gubb refers to the ones still living in NZ. Is he aware of the ground swell of discontent amongst fathers here? Probably not, as red necks usually do not educate themselves with reality.

The fear of reprisal is the biggest deterrent from many more fathers joining in these protests.

Shame on you Mr Gubb for remaining ignorant or hiding the truth. However, thankyou for your statement which gives increased credence to the protestors claim.

Reply To Mooses Comments

Filed under: General — dpex @ 4:52 pm

You’re absolutely right on the nail, Moose.

When my girl asked who would pay for all of the extra-curricular activities my girls does, who would pay for her school, who would take her bush-trekking, rock-climbing, flying, swimming, surfing, her pet dog, her piano, her art, If I wasn’t allowed?

What about her own room and bed and all the paraphenalia little girls collect, etc?

Her own so-called lawyer, The Loon, stated, ‘You’ll just have to get used to not having all those things.’!!!!

And there you have it Moose. These vile women were quite prepared (still are trying to get their way) to entirely destroy the child’s life, just to protect her from some hallucination that I ‘may’ pose some unkown threat at some unkown time in the future…. maybe, ya’never know, could be, in fact we’re sure of it, we think, maybe, ya’never know.

It is my opinion that these vile women, and all of their ilk, do not have the right to breathe the same air we breathe.

David.

Sons of the Fathers: Inside a Mens group

Filed under: General — JohnPotter @ 11:32 am

Brand new DVD for men

What do men keep bottled up? Watch them create new Life Pathways

“Sons of the Fathers” filmed a men’s group in Melbourne, Australia in 2004. Some had been in a men’s group before. There was no script.

The DVD has the downloadable file ‘CREATE AND RUN YOUR OWN MEN’S GROUP‘ incorporating a format for a Father and Son workshop.

Watch the stories unfold, as men:

  • are less depressed
  • improve relationships with family and friends
  • resolve grief, a key factor in addressing domestic violence
  • relax
  • express themselves more fully
  • become happier in themselves, and are
  • more grounded

Coordinator Nick Theophilou has had 15 years experience as a Men’s Counsellor and group facilitator, and has formed over 40 men’s groups.

You can read more and purchase the DVD at www.fathersandsons.com.au

Fri 12th May 2006

CYFS Violence Update

Filed under: General — dpex @ 7:18 pm

These people just get worse.

As some readers will remember, the mother in my case has withdrawn her case and attendent protection order.

CYFS case, such as it was to begin with, was founded on her ‘evidence’ aka false allegations. She has withdrawn from this position, which is a credit to her morality.

But now CYFS have decided that because the mother is refusing to ‘protect’ her daughter against me, then ‘she’ is clearly an unfit mother who just doesn’t realise CYFS are always right and that she really should reinstate her cases.

But Mother has informed all concerned, in writing, now on two separate occasions, that she withdraws. And so the witches need to find a way to force her to change her mind again.

And guess what they tried. Yup, they applied for an ex-parte custody order over the child. The plan, we believe, being, to grab the child, and shove her in some dismal CYFS home. How violent is that? These are the folk who assert they are out there to protect children!

For those unfamiliar with this mechanism, an ex-parte application is made (normally) when the applicant can ‘prove’ extreme and immediate danger. The applicant does so without warning or allowing the affected party any representation.

When my lawyer (Rod Hooker…and boy is he ever good at his job) discovered the application was before the judge, he fired off an opposition. Then he called the CYFS lawyer and asked for a copy of the application.

Apparently, within the halls of lawyership, there is a code of (dare I use the word) ethics requiring lawyers to cooperate, openly.

Not the CYFS lawyer. This dumb-bum tried to assert that Rod had no right to intervene because his client (me…the ogre) was not a party to the proceedings!

Eh? But I’m the reason they wanted the order….or was it?

Oh no. We now realise the game-plan was to simply grab the child, make her utterly miserable in some foul CYFS home, then let mother experience her daughters’ misery and invite her to terminate her daughters’ pain ….”But oh, by the way, you will have to reinstate your case first.’ How violent is that????

I have upheld my voluntary restriction of staying away from the child’s school and her swimming club till the full case is heard and we finally show CYFS up for the viscious time and money-wasters that they are.

And so what would they have to gain from filing for an ex-parte custody order? Exactly as stated. These vile, viscious women are misusing process in an attempt to force the mother to reinstate her false allegations!!! Thus they are now, potentially, parties to an attempt to pervert the course of justice.

Now that is truly violent.

BTW: As at the close of court tonight, they didn’t get their custody order.

But, at least, their attempt is now going to force the court to arraign the parties for a sunstantive hearing…the very last thing the CYFSterhood want

Lastly, I’ve never heard Mr Hooker angry. But I heard it tonight. I’d sure hate to be the CYFS lawyer and the CYFS social worker who got involved. I won’t disclose what he is about to do. One never knows; the evil-ones may visit this site, and I’d hate to give them a heads-up on what’s coming at them, but it ain’t pretty. Save to say, some people who truly believe they are inviolate to the laws of process are in deep shit. Good, eh? :–))

Just wait till Dyson gets a load of this!

Cheers
David

$6 Million for Family Court PR scheme

Filed under: Law & Courts — JohnPotter @ 1:53 pm

In Stuff today: Plan to help families cope with divorce

Parents about to divorce or separate are to be given free counselling sessions in a bid to lessen the impact on their children.

The $6 million scheme, unveiled by Justice Minister Rick Barker yesterday, was aimed at 15,000 parents who would separate or contemplate a split, during the next year, he said.

Mr Barker said not enough was being done to help parents.

The voluntary programme includes four hours of counselling, a DVD and written material, and coaches parents on the impact of divorce and how to involve their children.

The programme is an extension of an Auckland pilot scheme started in 2004, which had 100 per cent backing from the parents involved, Waitemata intern clinical psychologist Lynelle Gillard, said.

Auckland family lawyer Brian Gubb, who helped put the programme together, said it should be mandatory for all parents that were separating. “Otherwise the parents that you want on it, won’t (go).”

Isn’t this announcement good news, I hear readers ask? I think not. Superficially, it sounds quite promising (although astute observers may note that 100% support sounds just a little too good).

The pilot of scheme: Children in the Middle, was run on the North Shore and the Family Court published a report on the Parent Information Programmes here.

A perusal of the names behind the programme will cause considerable disquiet to any regular attendees of Mens Centre North Shore support groups! Notably lacking is any form of consumer representation, or any involvement by father’s support organisations. So who are the new experts on separation and divorce? The same lawyers, clinical psychologists, and court officials who have been at the forefront of the feminist father-removal programme!

The present programme was initiated by the Chairperson of the Auckland Family Courts Association, Brian Gubb, who contacted Associate Professor Fred Seymour at the University of Auckland Psychology Department to invite him to participate in setting up a programme in Auckland. The Auckland Family Court Association agreed to run a pilot programme and invited Lynelle Gillard, a Clinical Psychology doctoral student to be involved. It was decided to run CiM on Auckland’s North Shore. Support for the pilot was given by the then Principal Family Court Judge, Judge Patrick Mahony, the Auckland Administrative Judge, Judge Lawrence Ryan and the Ministry of Justice. After some initial consultation, an Advisory Group was established. Advisory Group members included Brian Gubb, Fred Seymour, Lynelle Gillard, Bruce Archer, Marg Dixon, Amanda Donovan, Hana Ellis, Andrew Finnie, Wayne Gates, Ian McHardy and Keith Young. Initial work in developing CiM took place during 2003, and CiM commenced in February, 2004.

Wed 10th May 2006

Why do these men protest??

Filed under: General — triassic @ 9:49 pm

What’s got into these fathers that makes them lose respect for the courts? Are they of the same ilk as that mad man Jesus who came into the Family Court last year and upon seeing the standard of judgments screamed;

“Such stupidity and ignorance! Their eyes are closed, and they cannot see. Their minds are shut, and they cannot think”

he then overturned tables, smashed the reporter’s computer and drove the Judge and lawyers from the court saying

“Get these out of here! How dare you turn a court of justice into a domain for expressing a political agenda. These are my Father’s children you are playing with.”

He then produced a whip and beat the Judge and Lawyers as they ran out the building.

Jesus was to preach outside the courthouse to a group of men, encouraging them not to give up their fight to obtain access to their children and to stay focused on love and creativity. Police arrested & charge him with assault against a female, wilful damage, contempt of court and a further 24 charges.

A court reporter spoke to Jesus as he was being beaten and pepper sprayed. He asked him why he needed to be violent in order to get his point across. With tears pouring out his eyes Jesus said.

“Your question reeks of hypocrisy with a desire to cover a greater sin. You brood of vipers, how can you, being evil, speak what is good. For the mouth speaks out of that which fills the heart. Zeal for the protection of innocence has consumed me. Whatever ye shall sow so shall ye reap.”

Jesus was later to be convicted on all 27 charges with some saying he was crucified…..
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CYF Worker Violence

Filed under: General — dpex @ 6:41 pm

Some years ago I owned a business which marketed a product direct to householders.

My personal TM would set an average of eight appointments a day, so I went into a lot of very varied households. I have to say some were shit-holes beyond human decency, but most were modestly to properly tidy.

One day I was invited to the home of Mr & Mrs X. They live(d) in a posh suburb of Howick.

Everything about the property, inside and out was beyond pristine.

Upon being invited in I noticed two young girls eating dinner. They were dressed in perfect garb, their hair was tied just so with just-so ribbons. They ate in absolute silence, and ate with enormous delicacy. Between fork-fulls, they dutifully placed knife and fork parallel on the right sides of their plates, used the ultra-white napkins to dab their young lips, then repeated the cut, fork, and feed with incredible delicacy.
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Discontent within mens groups.

Filed under: General,Law & Courts — Downunder @ 5:15 pm

There is some discontent within mens groups. Some feel protesting outside Judges and lawyers houses is going to far. The public is undecided – some disgusted with us, some curious, and some in full agreement.

On one of the recent protests outside Barrister Stuart Cummins residence, he came out of his residence and faced the protestors.

Mike Paterson challenged Mr Cummins saying to him,

“You lied in my court case.”

Mr Cummins replied,

“Yes I did”

Misconduct in the court is not uncommon, just unreported.

The media suggests that we are disgruntled fathers. Mr Boshier suggests that we are going beyond democratic protest.

In what we believe is a democratic country it is sometimes easier to live in denial than it is to face up to the human rights abuses that exist within the New Zealand Family Court. Imagine the damage to Helen Clark the great Human Rights Campainger, if Mr Boshier didn’t keep the lid on this one.

Quite frankly I don’t give a continental about her image, the governments image, or how embarrassed anyone gets. Is it too difficult to accept that this court has a direct impact in areas such as childrens ability to function at school, on suicide rates, on our work force, on the public perception of authority, on our value of society.

“It has all the hallmarks of personal vendetta by individuals who do not respect the legitimacy of the court,” Mr Boshier said.

Most people afford legitimate authorities the respect it deserves, and when they don’t, there is always a reason. If this court room is to regain its ligitimacy Mr Boshier will need to grow beyond a political patsey in a rubber stamp court room.

I’m with the protestors.

Seem All Too Familiar?

Filed under: General — dpex @ 7:22 am

…..Cameron Todd Willingham is the first and only man executed in the United States for suspected arson after his three children, all under the age of three, burned to death at their home….

Willingham’s neighbour testified he “knew” Willingham was a drifter, “knew” he liked to drink beer and play darts, and “knew” he had trouble holding a job. The neighbour also “knew” Willingham didn’t try hard enough to save his children.

This evidence was, apparently, sufficient to damn Willingham as a father.

Then the now-proven-incompetent fire marshal, one Manuel Vasquez, stated, with the absolute authority of the self-styled “expert”, that the house fire “must” have been arson.

The jury decided that because no other person whom they could find was likely to have set the fire, it “must” have been Willingham.

Twelve years after Willingham was convicted on this so-called evidence, he was executed. Two years later (this year in fact) real experts have discovered the fire was actually accidental.

Seem all too familiar???

David

Tue 9th May 2006

Boshier lashes out at fathers

Filed under: General,Law & Courts — JohnPotter @ 10:14 pm

NZ Herald: Fathers’ vendetta angers top judge

Principal Family Court judge Peter Boshier said men’s groups such as the Union of Fathers, which had been picketing two judges’ homes in recent weeks, were going beyond acceptable democratic protest.

Boshier’s “beyond acceptable democratic protest” demonstrates the type of thinking which underlies the whole dysfunctional culture of the Family Court. Actions are either legal or illegal; judges are supposed to understand this sort of thing! While I don’t personally agree with protesting outside private homes, I find it most disturbing that a senior Judge believes that there is a grey area between legal and illegal where he can legitimately weild his considerable coercive power.
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Child Support Act and books

Filed under: General — Julie @ 2:56 pm

If you would like a copy of the Child Support Act phone the Unitec Bookshops. In fact if you are after any books phone them. They are much cheaper than book stores as well as cheaper than Auckland University.

The Act + Amendments (1&2) total price $18.50
If the amendments are included in the Act reprint (2005) the price will be $15.00.

Comments to think about

Filed under: General — Julie @ 2:51 pm

This is from a few unhappy supporters in the public.

“After your demonstration on TV everyone is against you because they feel that the judge and neighbours shouldn’t have to put up with people picketing outside their private homes. When judges etc leave the courts etc, the job ends and their private lives begin.

Are you aware the judges etc do not set the law? The GOVERNMENT does.

Get off your bums, unite and petition at Wellington Parliament. Numbers and Signatures are what count. Write petitions and come visit the public to get OUR signatures. Then rally the men, women and children and MARCH. March down Queens street, march in Wellington to parliament and produce all the signatures you have collected. Ring television stations and radios when ready for the march.

Men don’t alienate yourselves from the public. Do it for the men suffering now and in the future.

GET ORGANISED. GET ORGANISED. Stand up and be counted. We know the bias and unbalance.”

Discount Justice.

Filed under: Domestic Violence,General,Law & Courts — Downunder @ 12:30 am

Cheap today, cheaper than yesterday….

Chief Family Judge Peter Boshier claims the Family Court has become a ‘supermarket court with judges expected to rule on everything from choices of school to choices of surname.

2004-0422 – Dominion Post – Court too busy to do its job says judge
The Family Court is too busy to do its core work properly and will have a hard job regaining public confidence, its new top judge Peter Boshier says. In a nod to men’s rights groups that claim the Family Court is biased against fathers, Judge Boshier said many men were disenfranchised from their children because the court failed to deal with abuse and violence cases quickly.

2004-0422 – NZ Herald – Judge calls for open, efficient Family Court
by Stuart Dye – The court’s ability to deal with domestic violence cases and abuse of children is so compromised by a mass of other work that there are unacceptable delays, says Principal Family Judge Peter Boshier. In a speech to the Auckland Family Courts’ Association, held behind closed doors, Judge Boshier said there needed to be a clear gate-keeping process to identify cases suitable for mediation. …… Judge Boshier said there was a need for more transparency in the court processes.

2004-0422 – Stuff – Judge calls for key changes to Family Court
NZPA – Criticism that the Family Court is biased and overly secret is often “extravagant and misplaced”, says Principal Family Court Judge Peter Boshier but he admits the court could perform a lot better. Judge Boshier, who took over the position of principal judge last month, made the comments tonight in a speech delivered to the Auckland Family Courts Association. Judge Boshier said while many of the broadsides directed at the court were overstated, there were several key areas where the court could improve its performance.

2006-0508 What does he say now…. Family Court Judges will not be intimidated.

(You may be getting a pat on the back from Helen, but the New Zealand Public is probably just a little disappointed.)

Mon 8th May 2006

Parents protest over access to children

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 11:51 pm

Stuff Link: Parents protest over access to children

By ESTHER HARWARD

Post Feedback to stuff.

The heading on this item suggests, that you are reporting about a group of parents who do not see their children and who are protesting against a courts decision. I think you have been unfair to these people as most have issues with the court process, or lack of due process, or issues with the ethics and behaviour of staff, and the application of the law. There has been over the last decade ample evidence of misconduct which has not been investigated, because the family court is expected to provide a political outcome rather, than a sensible decision for the children involved.

Surely readers must be asking after 8 years of protests outside the court how were the protest targets selected. Perhaps they are the names that appear with monotonous regularity, in cases where children are permanently separated from one parent? Perhaps the protest is more about incompetence than it is about outcome? Perhaps that is why other lawyers refer to the Family Law Section as the home of the lazy and the incompetent?

Let us not be seen as entirely ungrateful though; There was a time when the editor of the NZ Herald banned reporters from walking across Albert street to report on a protest they could see from their window. Thankyou for at least printing the story.

Minister of Men’s Affairs asked for $500 million more

Filed under: General — triassic @ 9:26 pm

Since Men’s Refuge opened last year in June 2009, offering men a place to lick their wounds from wives who abuse them, the number of men using the facility has mushroomed. Some men have been resident in these homes since they opened. Due to a shortage of funding some men were forced to return to their wives only to be back within 24hrs begging the administrators to let him back in. 30% of the men were seeking refuge from the State. The largest proportions of those were in deep depression from losing their children and experiencing little support from the courts with access.

Rising domestic violence rates had pushed services to breaking point, said Tim Stagnal, National Collective of Independent Men’s Refuges manager. “ I don’t understand why we are having an increase in the number of men claiming abuse but I suspect it may be due to the new law introduced last year on domestic violence.” Mr Stagnal was referring to the redefining of “violence” as: any party to a domestic relationship that experiences an emotion or lack of an emotion from one party that causes an injury be it physical or emotional to the other party.

Mr Stagnal has asked the government for another $500 million next year just to keep up with this year’s influx.

National Collective of Independent Woman’s Refuges has experienced a similar problem. They received $1.4 Billion last year and say its not enough.

Bub’s, spokes child for the National Collective of Independent Children’s Refuges, is also demanding more resources for the more than 400,000 children who no longer want to live with either of their parents. “We don’t need our parents since they no longer play any part in our lives” said Bub’s “ give us $2 Billion a year and let us do whatever we want.” Child, Youth and Family Services Minister , Ms Knowitall said last night that the children should come first and as the State knew what was best for them the resources would go in that direction.

Violence Defined

Filed under: General — dpex @ 6:51 pm

Violence is any act or conscious ommission which is ‘designed’ to injure a third party.

Thus fraud is violence, as is theft, and cheating.

One could argue that an employer, forcing an employee to work extremely extended hours, thus leaving little or time left for his or family to be an act of violence against the employee’s family.

Consequently, the term ‘violence’ can be applied with the same broad-brush as blue can be applied to a sea-scape unless some level of substantive test is set to determine violence.

It follows that ‘violence’ per se, must be coralled (for the purposes of interposing its content into family matters) as a physical act which results is some identifiable damage to the violated party.
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