The population of NZ is becoming much better informed and aware of the b.s. that has been driving gender relations and law for 5 decades now. Occasional articles are starting to appear using reason and fact to challenge the bias, hyperbole and falsehood spread by feminists. Whereas even five years ago many readers’ comments had clearly swallowed the feminist lines and dissenting comments were rare, a large proportion of comments now are seeing what we here have long seen. The eyes of the nation are beginning to open and once that happens it becomes difficult to keep avoiding the truth.
This article today was an example, by Matt Heath discussing some of the impacts of male-bashing and anti-male indoctrination especially of women. Just read the comments, many men and even a few women recognizing the issues.

The politicians are still well behind the 8-ball but we sense they are starting to watch their step a bit. Judith Collins on TV1 News last night was in Europe checking out some of their approaches to family violence, and she was very careful to talk about ‘family members’ and other gender neutral terms in discussing the matter.

The Law Commission is clearly well out of touch, still heavily brainwashed by White Knight Peter Boshier and his fan club of man-haters. Their latest travesty will be but one of many feminist atrocities in their retreat. They will leave as many land mines and cause as much harm as possible in their anger at having the truth forced on them.

Keep up the good work.

Victims of family violence who kill their abusers should be able to claim self-defence more easily, the Law Commission says.

The commission’s report on family violence laws, requested by the Government, has recommended lowering the threshold for self-defence to help women who “have endured years of trauma and abuse”.

In its report, the Law Commission said New Zealand had the highest reported rate of family violence in the developed world.
Justice Minister Amy Adams says the Law Commission’s recommendation would be “a significant departure” from current laws.
KIRK HARGREAVES / FAIRFAX NZ

Justice Minister Amy Adams says the Law Commission’s recommendation would be “a significant departure” from current laws.

The commission has recommended changing the law to state that self-defence can apply when a person is responding to family violence – even when the threat is not “imminent”, as currently must be the case.

READ MORE:
* New family violence offences considered
* ‘Underbelly of abuse’ in NZ
* Govt puts microscope on ‘horrific’ domestic violence rates
* Domestic violence victims need more support
* Amy Adams: We can turn the tide on family violence
* Outdated attitudes not helping family violence victims – report

Lead commissioner Dr Wayne Mapp said there were some “deeply-held myths” about family violence, such as that those being abused could simply walk away.
Family violence victims who kill their abusers are often defending themselves after “years of trauma and abuse”, the Law …
FAIRFAX NZ

Family violence victims who kill their abusers are often defending themselves after “years of trauma and abuse”, the Law Commission says.

“The reality is family violence in many cases is part of an ongoing, sustained, vicious pattern of violence that traps the person.

“That entrapment means she cannot leave, and that then means she ultimately, for fear of her life, or that of her children, sees no other way out but to defend herself with lethal force.”

Mapp said New Zealand’s self-defence laws were “out of step” with countries like the UK and Australia, and there was “ample evidence” that women convicted here of manslaughter or murder should have been acquitted for acting in self defence due to family violence.

He did not believe changing the law would lead to people using family violence as an excuse for premeditated murder, saying it would be up to juries to decide whether a self-defence claim was believable.
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The law change could allow a woman to kill her sleeping partner and claim self-defence, if she made a “believable” case of family violence.

“Such a claim would only be successful if it existed in the context of a sustained long period of family violence, and if you didn’t do that then, the next thing going to happen to you is that you were going to be killed instead.”

‘A TERRIBLE CONSEQUENCE OF FAMILY VIOLENCE’

Other recommendations in the report were:

* Allowing a broader range of evidence about family violence to support claims of self-defence.

* Ensuring “consistent consideration” of a history of family violence as a mitigating factor during sentencing.

* Continuing to educate judges, prosecutors and defence lawyers about family violence.

* Reviewing the “three strikes” law and how it affects victims of family violence.

Women’s Refuge New Zealand chief executive Ange Jury said the self-defence proposal was “a good move forward”, given what victims of family violence had to deal with.

“It’s been likened to a form of terrorism, and I don’t think that’s going too far…unless you’ve actually been there, I don’t think anyone can know what that feels like.”

However, Jury said the most important recommendation was educating those in the justice system about the nature of family violence.

“Unless the people administering the law have a really good, sound understanding of what domestic violence is, what it looks like, what it does, it’s not going to be administered properly anyway.”

‘WE HAVE TO BE INCREDIBLY CAREFUL’

Justice Minister Amy Adams said she welcomed the Law Commission’s “comprehensive” report, which the Government had asked it to prioritise.

“A terrible consequence of family violence is that some victims are driven to killing their abusers – as a result of often years of abuse.”

Adams said the Law Commission’s proposals would be “a significant departure” from the current laws, and would need “careful thought and discussion”.

“We have to be incredibly careful – letting someone off killing another human being is an incredibly serious thing to do.”

The recommendations would be considered as part of the Government’s work on family violence, she said.

VICTIMS WHO STRIKE BACK

The Law Commission has identified a number of New Zealand cases where victims of family violence who killed their abusers, including:

* Amanda Taitapanui: The 29-year-old was sentenced to 12 months of home detention in April for manslaughter after fatally stabbing her partner Mura Dean Tagatauli in the leg. A police summary about the killing said the couple had an “extensive family violence history”.

* Dale Wickham: In 2010, the 62-year-old was sentenced to 12 months home detention for manslaughter after killing her husband John Wickham. Her lawyer said at trial Wickham had put up with years of abuse from her husband, who had made threats to kill her by hitting her with a brick and putting her body in the pool to cover it up.

* Gay Oakes: In 1995, Oakes received a life sentence for murder after poisoning her partner Doug Gardner and burying him in the garden of their Christchurch home. Oakes was furious at the abuse he meted out to her and their children, but a partial defence of provocation failed at her trial.

Stuff article

Hi,

My daughter is currently living in Canada with her mother and has dual Canadian/New Zealand citizenship. She’s under 18 and is still at school. I am concerned about her welfare and one of the few ways I have of keeping tabs on her is to try and build a relationship with her school. Last year I was given (by email) some of her academic records by her teacher but the school seems very reluctant to give me any more academic records or any information about my daughter other than confirming that she’s still attending the school.
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Hi guys,

Have Court on Wednesday 11.5.16.

Need to provide the Court with print outs of the decisions/orders made by the Court in the following cases. How can I find them please to print as a pdf to show the Court?
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Those who haven’t read the NZ Herald over recent days may have missed its ongoing series on family violence. It’s typical misandry and misinformation, for example in yesterday’s editorial. The first case used to discuss NZ family violence was of Emily Longley who actually was murdered in England by an Englishman.

What’s really interesting though is the high state of awareness and criticism in the readers’ comments of the Heralds’ misandry and duplicity. It’s incredible that neither the media nor our politicians are yet tuning in to the growing wave of public sentiment against the feminist ideology and propaganda we have been subject to for so long.

We encourage readers to contribute to the comments on the Herald’s articles.

This news article was posted by Kumar as a reply under a recent thread but we agree with Allan Harvey that it deserves its own thread so here it is. A woman planned and attempted to murder her three children and white knight Justice Paul Heath rode to her rescue, going to great lengths to explain and justify his chivalry. She was sentenced to two years ‘intensive supervision’, a helping sentence that will require her to attend some counselling and to report to a probation officer initially once a week then reducing. Such a sentence does not oblige her to cooperate with treatment, take medication as directed or anything much else. This pussy pass might seem extraordinary for such serious offending but it’s actually quite ordinary when it comes to female offenders. (more…)

This interview on the Ruben Report states many of the facts we mention here on this site.

However, what I found most interesting is that the messenger is gay …..oh what a lovely articulate way Milo delivers his points.

SINCERE REQUEST FOR HELP

On May 11th I have the final custody hearing for my children. My ex-Japanese wife has interim custody as I work. In over 3 years of custody struggle I have presented 58 offers of peace and sharing. All have been rejected by her and her Japanese boyfriend.

17 times this year she has blocked access in violation of the Court Order. The Police are not interested.The Courts are so busy it is near impossible to get time with a Judge.

I have no money and am representing myself.

Can someone please provide some Case Precedents where :

Custody has been given to the father because the mother refused to share and abide by Orders of the Court.

Yours faithfully,
Paul

The issue of Child Abduction across borders is in the news again.

I also see that the story of Dr Elizabeth Morgan and her now adult daughter was discussed by Murray well known axe murderer this morning as well. The daughter Elena Mitrano is deeply scarred by her childhood experiences and the alienation of her father.

In NZ we also have the Kay Skelton saga which the Family Court in the end released significant information about after 7 years of effective support for the wrong side of righteouness. The NZ court also got it right in the Bianca Ormsby v Adam Thomas matter as well. Take care believing what Bianca and her supporters spin about this story. The ability for mum to have contact in a similar way to Kay Skelton exists because Dad is prepared to allow that to happen.

The Hague Convention is a good tool and the idea of dragging children across borders to remove their right to contact with both parents needs to be identified as madness and wrong.

Colmar Brunton have done a survey of 1000 NZers, Who Do We Trust.
27% of respondents said their level of trust in judges and the courts had fallen cf 10% who said their levels had risen.
35% had complete or lots of trust in judges and the courts. 17% had little (14%) or no trust (3%). The majority had some trust 48%.
Younger people (45% of 18-29 year olds) had more trust 45% whereas those aged over 30 were more distrusting with only 31% having complete or a lot of trust. in the court process. Is that the voice of experience?
However the most startling result is based on household income. Those with $100,000 or more coming in were more assured 49% having complete or a lot of trust cf just 27% for those of us with incomes of $70,000 or less. I was somewhat surprised that the results for those on incomes of $30,000 or less was no different than those of us with average household incomes.
Does this reflect that those reliant on legal aid have found judges and the courts fail them? It seems to show higher satisfaction for those with an ability to pay for legal workers to successfully lead them through the maize of bureaucracy. Is this a concern? Maybe “blind justice” is peeking behind her blindfold?

Hi all

Does anyone have any experience or knowledge of the impact of a child going onto an unsupported child benefit and how it then impacts on your child support liability? Does it reduce (as the child is no longer in the other parents care) or do IRD look to recover the benefit from either or both of the parents?

Cheers

B.

While it may seem satisfying to see CYF clobbered for failing our children and families, there seems little in the proposed changes that will improve matters. The changes are in line with the National government’s privatization agenda that it has already applied significantly to prisons and schools and is seeping by stealth into health and most other government services. (more…)

A farewell will be held at Morrison’s Funeral Home, 220 Universal Drive, Henderson, at 3.00pm this Thursday, 7 April 2016. This will be an opportunity to pay a tribute and share anecdotes with a cup of tea. Jim was always adamant he didn’t want a religious funeral, but I’m sure he’ll cope with a few of us getting together to celebrate his life. After all, he tolerated a dinner to honor his achievements back in 2013.

There will also be an (unofficial) Dedication of the Bagnall Knoll Opposite Waitakere Court on Friday 29th April at 1pm followed by a meal at the local Valentine’s Restaurant.

For those of you who can’t make it to either of these events, or perhaps don’t know much about Jim’s contribution to the New Zealand Fathers’ Rights movement, I’ve gathered together a few photos and videos of him in action.

Jim Bagnall in Albany – November 2015

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Jim Bagnall passed away this morning after a long illness. He will be sadly missed by the many people he helped and those he campaigned with. There will be no public funeral but a dedication will be held on 29th April. FYI, Ministry of Men’s Affairs news release today:
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This story in today’s NZ Herald shows how the pussy pass was the norm 50 years ago. Marjorie Ellingham poisoned food that she served to guests and this was later assumed to be a way of covering up her own suicide. She gave herself much more arsenic than she put in the others’ food, presumably so her death would look like food poisoning that had not killed the others. Apparently, she had been experimenting for some time feeding others doses of arsenic. A young son of her guests ended up dying after eating her arsenic-laced food. (more…)

The answer to that lies within the Opotiki courts case regarding young men and under aged girls indulging in sex acts. Judge Louis Bidois shows great wisdom in the handling of the case and is to be commended for such. The girls in this case have ended up being collateral damage due to Police policy that holds a belief (communists and other totalitarian regimes do so) that the ‘ends justifies the means’. Before Helen Clark politicised the force wisdom would be used in police investigations of this nature. Now there is zero wisdom and hence we see bigotry and ignorance operating at a high level. The only way to climb the ladder in the Police Force is to be female or a eunuch. The NZ police force is just a tool of feminist bull shit and has lost its credibility as a servant of the whole community.

In our opinion NZ media spend far too much time on the US ‘primaries’ (that many media incorrectly refer to as ‘the presidential race’). We guess it’s cheap and NZ media have lucked in when it comes to Donald Trump because he can be quite entertaining.

The Trump issue that arose yesterday highlighted some frightening trends. Trump expressed his opinion that if abortion were to be made illegal then women who procure abortions should be punished. This apparently was so unacceptable to women that he soon recanted and decided that only the abortionist should be punished. That is the first frightening thing, that feminism can stifle reasoning and opinion so readily that even the chest-beating Donald Trump is humbled. (Probably not a good move for Trump either, to be seen as so spineless and unauthentic…)

Women make up 53% of US voters so politicians can’t afford to say too much that would turn them off. But really, if most women would be turned off by the idea that women should be punished for breaking the law, we see how unequal and dangerous feminism truly is. (more…)

FYI, our media release:

MoMA
MINISTRY OF MEN’S AFFAIRS
MINITATANGA MO NGA TANE
A Community Group because successive governments have neglected the voice and welfare of New Zealand men

Media Release

Human Rights Commission Agrees Men’s Rights are Important Too

Chief Human Rights Commissioner David Rutherford has emphasized that human rights for males are as important as those for women and other groups.

A meeting in December 2015 between Mr Rutherford and representatives of NZ men’s groups and services identified areas in which men’s human rights have been neglected in NZ. The meeting recognized that in the drive to improve rights for women and other groups traditionally seen as disadvantaged, men’s welfare has been forgotten.

At a follow-up meeting in February 2016 plans were considered to include men’s issues in future reports to the UN about New Zealand’s human rights record.

Spokesman for one of the groups involved, Hans Laven from community group the Ministry of Men’s Affairs (MoMA) described the meetings as ‘historic’.

‘It’s reassuring that our HRC through Mr Rutherford has acknowledged that men and boys are in trouble as shown by high suicide and imprisonment rates, and that gender equity is as much a human right for men as for women’ Mr Laven said.

Other men’s issues seen as needing attention included gender inequality in sentencing and treatment under our justice system and family court, gender-specific laws that disadvantage men, the provision of refuge and other support services for men, and the need to evaluate new laws for their impact on men’s rights and welfare as much as women’s.

Another men’s representative who attended, Craig Jackson, said that NZ has an opportunity to once again lead the world in addressing a neglected area of human rights for half the nation’s population, just as it did a century ago regarding women’s suffrage.

In the news yesterday was a video of Carolyn Brooker ‘explaining’ why she is supporting a campaign called ‘Positive Women’ after losing her daughter to AIDS. From the Positive Women campaign: “We aim to provide a support network for women and families living with HIV or AIDS”. A 2010 review of services supporting those with HIV quoted Positive Women also describing their mission as being “to identify ways to empower women to go forward’. (more…)

FYI, our media release:

MoMA Media Release: 07 March 2016

Radio NZ Careless about Domestic Violence Figures

The Broadcasting Standards Authority (BSA) has upheld a complaint that Radio NZ broadcast incorrect statistics about family violence deaths. The incorrect figures claimed that more than twice as many women than men are being killed by family members in New Zealand. Authoritative figures show that almost as many men are killed as women.

Radio NZ relied on old figures published by the Ministry for Social Development that were unreferenced as to their origin. The BSA found that Radio NZ did not take reasonable efforts to ensure their broadcast was accurate. The BSA noted that Radio NZ also ignored a listener’s efforts to point out the figures were wrong.

Hans Laven from community group the Ministry of Men’s Affairs (MoMA) also criticized the Ministry for Social Development for continuing to publish the misleading figures.

‘I have written several times to the Ministry for Social Development (MSD) asking them to amend their figures to make clear they are not current and may never have been accurate, but MSD replied they are happy to keep publishing them’ Mr Laven said.

Mr Laven accused both Radio NZ and MSD of failing in their social responsibility by spreading misinformation that discounts male victims and harms NZ men.

Mr Laven warned that efforts to reduce family violence would be unsuccessful unless based on a realistic understanding of the problem. He called for Radio NZ to issue a correction and an apology to the many male victims of domestic violence.

MINISTRY OF MEN’S AFFAIRS
MINITATANGA MO NGA TANE
A Community Group because successive governments have neglected the voice and welfare of New Zealand men
PO Box 13130, Tauranga 3141
Contact Hans Laven (07)5712435 or (0274)799745; [email protected]
or Kerry Bevin (021)269 8353

The headline item on One News today was about a group of lawyers who asked the Waitangi Tribunal to hear a case that high Maori imprisonment and reimprisonment rates reflect racism. The Tribunal has fast-tracked an urgent hearing to deal with this travesty.

The elephant in the room of course is that the difference between male vs female imprisonment and reimprisonment rates is much greater than any racial differences. So it seems that high Maori imprisonment rates are due to racism but high male rates are because men are just bad bastards.

We know that the only gender-specific laws in NZ discriminate against men, such that an assault committed by a man towards a woman has twice the punishment for exactly the same assault committed by a woman, and that deliberately killing a baby or young child can only lead to a murder prosecution and punishment for men while women have their own special crime for this providing a maximum of three years imprisonment, rarely given. However, we’re not aware of any race-specific law that similarly discriminates against Maori. We also know that good research has shown significant anti-male sexism in our justice system regarding prosecutions and sentencing, but is there similar evidence that Maori are more likely to be charged more often and sentenced more harshly than other races for the same crimes? Never mind, as was the case for the UN ‘special rapporteur’ who came to NZ about two years ago to bemoan our racist society, sexism disadvantaging men is fine and can be ignored.

This is part of a post from A Voice For Men

Lies Men Are Fed

Section: “There is no “I’ in team”

This aphorism is used to promote selflessness and sacrifice in the common interest. Those that typically end up sacrificing the most are men. It is a false platitude exactly because every member of a team isn’t equally useful, ever.

Are the men that bring in all the new business at a large multi-national corporation as valuable as the women in the HR and compliance departments processing trumped up sexual harassment cases and making sure everyone has their top button done up? Are all the men that bring in new business equal? Of course not; there are star performers there are grunts, and there is dead wood.

To me, this is where we derail ourselves both as men and socially, but an excellent example of how the Gender-War has become a Gender-Bender.

This concept of men, suggests that their finer qualities should be arrogance, selfishness and greed. As a social model, the end game, can only be a failure, because it sets men up to fail.

You take away their freedom, their opportunity to learn and grow, and to build an identity.

It comes about by ridiculous comparisons to try to re-establish male identity, and confusing the process of business that gives a man his job and that opportunity, not an opportunity.

As for the ‘I’ in team. Every ‘I’ should have a clear understanding of what is required of him.

Some will fail.
Some will be slower than others.
Some may be promoted past their level of competence.
Some will shine.

If male leaders can’t understand why sensible women would rail against the concept being promoted in this article by a Voice For Men, then I think we (men) really do have a problem.

If this is the American Way, the way A Voice for Men wants to go, Menz should seriously reconsider its promotion of this organisation.

To put it bluntly, this is not a voice for men, and it is the lie we are being told.

There’s a story here, perhaps it’s a little off topic for men’s issues, but it does relate to fathers.

There was a dread of course that I could just as easily be another phone call to the control room, which fortunately never happened, or I could be the one making that phone call, and that was never far from my mind.

Her father was a man in uniform. That’s what she longed for, a husband just like him.

She found him, the one she wanted, and was immediately pregnant.

He didn’t mind the sex, but he wasn’t ready for a wife.

She never saw him again and aborted their child.

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Have you heard of flat-line editing before?

Neither have I, but here is how I see it working. (Following on from Deconstructing Feminism)

Flat line across the page, with a zone above and below the line. The flat line is the line of incompetence. Walking along this line should get you fired for incompetence in the role.

Above the line is all things good, the professional zone – factual, accurate etc. – the things we would expect from an editor. Below the line is not the opposite; It is not all things bad

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