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First visit to MENZ.org.nz? Here's our introduction page.
? http://www.psy.fsu.edu/~baumeistertice/goodaboutmen.htm
A very convincing? rebuttal to ideological feminism:
[T]his is not about the “battle of the sexes,” and in fact I think one unfortunate legacy of feminism has been the idea that men and women are basically enemies. I shall suggest, instead, that most often men and women have been partners, supporting each other rather than exploiting or manipulating each other.
In July a post was written on menz ‘utilising-our-resources‘ where an opportunity arose to fulfil an idea of taking men’s issues outside of the Internet and outside of Waitakere. (for me)
But this is a different area to pursue because now it is going to the younger male generation and providing them with not just information but a journey. One which I hope will benefit their lives and benefit the rights of men as human beings in New Zealand. And one which most likely will find many new readers here and on other sites.
From Monday 27th to Friday 31st August myself, a couple of friends and Jim Bagnall will be handing out 2000 of these flyers to 5 universities in the Auckland region.
Thanks to Rob Case and Saeed for the financial donations and to Paul Robertson for the design of the flyers and to Ken Maclaren for the printing.
You will find the flyer here and you can print some yourself for others if you wish. In fact it will be great to see them being used.
This is a promotion for MTGOW also. “Shock Horror”, some may think. “Julie has finally come around”. I will use this opportunity to say that I am promoting this because it is not about me. It is about the young men who we hope to save.
Anyhow,
Thanx also to Angry Harry’s website and words of wisdom (and for allowing us to use it as written) and one of Mikeray’s comments on menz.
The return of Eb Leary to the ranks of our legal profession shows a disturbing lack of reality amongst some in the legal profession and judiciary that have supported his return to practising law. This is a man who involved himself, not in the representation of criminals, in a fair trial, but in the operation of the drug trade. He helped drug dealers evade police prosecutions, for offences such as introducing drugs into prisons. He descended to defeating the course of justice, with acts such as bringing cash into the court room to buy drug dealers out of prison time. He took their money, to fund his life style, and thumbed his nose at our country.
Would you let a teacher who had assisted drug dealers to infiltrate a school have his job back? Would you let a policeman who had assisted burglars to evade detection have his job back? Why don’t we just keep lowering the bar so the next lawyer that does this does the likes gets back into the trade in 10 years?
If Mr Leary has risen above his previous pathetic level of existence, good on him, I congratulate him on his return to society. For those who have chosen to exonerate this man, and return him to the legal ‘profession’, they are fools to believe that they have restored this man’s credibility rather then lowering their own. This man was lucky not to be convicted of the crimes he committed, he got off lightly, and to see him rewarded in this manner by some of his former friends is an insult to the public of New Zealand, and a threat to the integrity of our justice system.
Elaine Dyer, Promoting Great Parenting says, “Sadly, in recent times it is not unusual to open the papers and read yet more disturbing stories that break the heart of any concerned parent. Fathers and step fathers get pretty tough press when things go wrong. So we looked at how we could improve support for fathering. All fathering is important! Come and join us in some great Waitakere fathering activities”
“Although we all know that the father roles are important, if you asked your average person why, they would probably be hard pressed to tell you” says Chris Davidson CEO of Henderson based Man Alive. “We recognise that fathers need good support, to feel valued, and be given attention, in more ways than just the times when the things are tough going.”
This week is supported by Ministry Social Developments SKIP project. Waitakere City Council. Te Korowai Manaaki Promoting Great Parenting. Barnados. Sport Waitakere. Man Alive. Waipareira Trust. Health West. Big Buddy. Unitec. Te Tari Puna O Aotearoa and Change Works.
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What’s coming up for Fathering Week?
For more information check out waitakere.govt.nz
The NZ forum on the family will bring together a national network of pro-family and pro-life organisations, scholars, lobby groups and leaders that seek to promote and protect the well beings of families, the roles of parents and the welfare of our children.
John Tamihere will run for the mayoralty in the October 2007 elections. John Tamihere is presently the Waipareira Trust chief executive and has been speaking up for men’s rights and will be speaking at Family First’s NZ forum on the family meeting in October 2007 on the topic of ‘Engaging the political process’ He was an MP for the Labor Party until Ian Wishart had coffee with him. lol
As well as the gender-specific interrogation of female hospital patients, other government anti-domestic violence initiatives are arising. Check out the information provided by the WINZ programme. Note how the pictures show only a man abusing a woman and later feeling remorseful. Note also the emphasis on sharing information with other departments. So if some unqualified WINZ feminist suspects domestic violence people can expect to be hassled by police, CYFS etc. I have asked to view the relevant guidelines given to WINZ staff for identifying and responding to possible domestic violence, and for their training programme and training providers. I don’t expect they will want to pass on this information though.
Terry Carson: Court struggles to stand tall in a community where family matters
5:00AM Wednesday August 22, 2007
The Family Court Matters Bill before Parliament is apparently designed to improve the standing of the Family Court in the eyes of the community……………………
While much of our family law legislation continues to lack any connection with the values still held in most parts of our community, the Family Court is likely to continue to struggle to attain the respect it should have.
* Terry Carson is a South Auckland lawyer, with more than 35 years practising in the Family Court
A no-holds-barred critique of the methods used by women, mothers in particular, to shape a man’s thoughts and behaviour. Recognise any of it? (Originally posted here)
This is The Rude Guy. The Medicine Man of Men’s issues. The audio antidote, to the mass Shaming of Men.
On earlier shows I talked about how our country is run by feminized men. Men who are winsome and charming and tricky and changeable. Men with no detectable moral center. Duplicitous men who lie and deceive. George W Bushes and Bill Clintons and Karl Roves and Dick Cheneys. How the hell did this happen? How did the worst possible species of men, the most feminized men, the LEAST honest men, become the most successful men? (more…)
Kidz Need Dadz Inc. and Union of Fathers invite all present, past or prospective members of UOF to the official opening of Kidz Need Dadz’ new premises at 538 Fraser St, Tauranga on Sunday 2nd September at 2pm followed by a BBQ.
More information from Sheila Ewart:
Kidz need Dadz is the charity arm of UOF. We have leased a 3 bedroom house in Tauranga for offices, meeting room and training facility as well as for fathers in need of emergency accommodation and to accommodate fathers that travel to Tauranga to have contact with their children. We have only just taken it over so the next twelve months will be busy and interesting.
Postal address: PO Box 15 155, Tauranga.
Our latest poll: you tell us!
This poll we are doing something different. Rather than setting a
specific topic, we’re turning it over to you. We invite you to tell us what’s important for your family right now, and any ideas you may have for future poll topics. Log in to The Couch and have your say.
Visit http://www.thecouch.org.nz/poll/takepoll/19 to log in and take
the poll. We look forward to your feedback!
If you have any further questions about The Couch, please contact us at [email protected] or by post at The Couch, Families Commission, Box 2839, Wellington.
Giving New Zealand families a voice Te reo o te whÄÂnau.
Father’s for Justice activists have climbed the Lincoln Memorial in Washington DC today, dressing as Batman and Captain America and unfurling a banner reading ‘For the fathers of the nation: Fathers for Justice has arrived : www.F4JUSA.com’.
Armed Capitol Police and the FBI quickly evacuated the memorial and arrested several ground crew and tourists as scuffles on the ground ensued.
The protest marks the start of the group’s US campaign.
(from Glenn Sacks).
UnitedFuture deputy leader Judy Turner says the Family Court Matters Bill just introduced to Parliament fails to address any of the major problems of the Family Court.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0708/S00311.htm
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Judges’ gowns are to make a comeback in the Family Court after its principal judge called for a change to help the court to be taken more seriously.
Family Court judges and lawyers are currently forbidden by law from wearing either gowns or wigs “to prevent unnecessary formality”.
Principal Judge Peter Boshier said he asked for a return of the gowns to raise the gravitas of the court in the public’s eye.
“I felt the Family Court ought to be seen by the public as a court that makes decisions that should be respected.
“We have suffered a little bit in the past from some people who have not taken Family Court decisions as seriously as they otherwise would have.
“So the introduction of the gowns is symbolic but important. It shows the court is a mainstream court whose decisions should be viewed no differently from any other court.”
extract NZ Herald
The following comment was left by Paul Parmenter on the blog The World According to Bob, in response to Bob’s post advocating a nation of men.
It’s one of the better outlines of the thinking behind MGTOW.
Some serious thoughts here, Bob. But I have considerable doubts that a formally constituted Men’s Nation, or whatever structure you might propose, would necessarily work.
Once it was set up, it would immediately be under attack and vulnerable because it would constitute a target. The weakness of any formal organisation is its very formality. If it has a head, then cutting off the head kills the organisation. If it has specific funding, then cutting off the funding has the same effect. If it relies on meetings, then breaking up the meetings can stifle its growth. History is full of examples. Look at how easy it became to destroy the original F4J movement in the UK. All it took was a (probably bogus and very weak) claim in a misandric newspaper, and the structure collapsed overnight. Every structure has its weakest point, and pressure exerted on that weak point brings the whole thing down.
I suggest that a better future lies in individual men taking control of their own lives. (more…)
The Timaru Herald | Thursday, 16 August 2007
A five-year-old girl has been served a trespass notice banning her from two supermarkets for two years for stealing a $1.50 bag of lollies.
The girl and her eight-year-old friend were caught shoplifting the sweets at Timaru’s Woolworths supermarket on Saturday afternoon.
They were with an 18-year-old, but he left the supermarket before the children were caught by the store’s duty manager.
The children were asked to sign their names on a trespass order forbidding them to set foot in both Woolworths and Countdown for two years.
Police were called and took the children home.
I see a lot of? intelligent young? NZ women? everyday. The majority are slim and attractive. Generally, they aren’t very feminine but many of them are very fine people.
I live with 2 beautiful, intelligent, caring? women in their mid twenties. Yes I know — lucky me, but I am not telling you this to make you jealous. Every now and then they explain to me why they don’t like some famous actress or female singer. Invariably it turns out that the celebrity in question is selfish and either had treated a man or talked/sung about men in very derogatory ways. ?
I am not talking about the Paris Hiltons and Nichole Richies that even I know about. I am talking about A list celebrities and top pop stars that I used to think were hot and had respect for. At least that was until I learnt how my young female friends viewed them. For example, Angelina Jolie was described as a home wrecker. I also didn’t realise what was in some of Rihanna’s lyrics. ?
Now I realise it is not news that celebrities often make poor role models. My point is that these young women are aware, that many female celebrities portray often subtle, but very negative views, of how men should be treated. They don’t like those messages at all. ?
I have this theory that females mature more quickly than males up until they reach their twenties. By around their mid twenties females seem to divide into 2 groups. There are the ones that get their life together and are thinking long term. They? are selective about the? other people in their life and they think about the consequences of things. Then there are the ones that just seem to stop maturing. Many of those in the latter group are simply not good marriage material. They have “issues” like all the rest of us, but they never deal with their issues. In many cases, eventually their “issues” manifest themselves in that they take them out on other people. ?
Young men could be aided by some helpful advice about how to identify the 2 different types. Of course once they see a beautiful woman they are bound to forget about the advice. However the world has always been that way and it never stopped older generations giving advice before. My personal approach is to explain my own experiences, when prompted. Then to let young people draw their own conclusions. It is slower but more effective.
It is important to encourage the good marriage material not just bag the bad apples.
This should be required reading:
How to control adults by means of ‘children’s rights’
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By Lynette Burrows
By GEOFF TAYLOR – Waikato Times | Saturday, 11 August 2007
Many parents believe they get the sharp end of our child support system
and end up with a burden they struggle to sustain. Geoff Taylor reports.
“She is my flesh and blood and I love her dearly,” says Lovich.
“I do, however, have to question why it takes $177 a week to feed and clothe her.”
Shouldn’t Lovich accept that child support is a fact of life? That it’s never going to be easy?
“I accept that but you should be able to live life without struggling to this extent.
“I’m sure there are a hell of a lot of other people out there in the same boat.”
Retirement Commissioner Diana Crossan agrees women should educate themselves and start saving for retirement. “A man is not a financial plan,” she says.
Auckland University economics lecturer Susan St John says linking a tax credit only to paid work cheapens the importance of caregiving.
“Once you start to reward work and tie saving incentives to work, then you are devaluing caregiving.”
St John also suggests that women, who are more likely to be caregivers, are valued (by the scheme) only if they are working.
“We need to be clear as a society that caregiving is actually work.”
But basic calculators provided on KiwiSaver websites don’t take into account the years women are likely to spend out of fulltime work – meaning,
You thought marriage was safe – here comes child support payments for the
unseparated men.
Sent from a NZ father via Jim Bagnall
In the past Marriage Guidance Counselors have supported me but this has had no effect on the Court. I now have a new two year old relationship. Things are working now how they are meant to be and things are falling into place.
The public needs to know about my struggles. Some things should be private but some things should be known by the public about our Family Court legal system.
So I want to share my desperation with you. I want to show how my children are being treated and most of all I want the public to be on a learning curve about the so called Family Court.
After 4 years I finally won a judgment for my Children to have contact with me. But Counsel for the Child applied for a stay of Judgment backed by a University based psychologist and Counsel for mother, of course.
These Litigation guardians are challenging the Family Court Judges’ competence, authority, integrity and Impartiality. If it’s up to the Litigation guardians, these children will never have a father. The Litigation guardians persuade the children to fear their father. They persuade the children to disregard the Judge’s decision.
Looking forward to seeing your father after nearly 4 years of constant brain washing is crushed by the Litigation guardians portraying him as some sort of mean person. Now I may not ever see one of my children who has serious health problems.
They stayed the Judge’s judgment, they appealed the Judge’s judgment (at my and tax payers expense) and now we are looking at serious money for me to defend the appeal in the High Court. In desperation I have to withdraw in an effort to ensure that my children in my x-wife’s care are not subjected to more psychological abuse and pressure from these so called professionals.
So with a sad heart, I withdrew my application to contact my children after having been given a judgment to do so. Will the children ever know the truth about my withdrawal?
The University based psychologist told me after the judgment that “there are ways around the Act” I am now witnessing one of these. How many more will there be?
So the Litigation guardians want to keep separated parents on their angry negative money-go-round. That is their real agenda. These so called professionals should have no involvement with families in difficulties.
I don’t have the right to publish names but you have a right to know what really goes on in the Family Court. The Family Court is no place for parents at war because one parent can use children against the other.
The following comments were left recently on a private message-board. I have the author’s permission to post it here, though he has asked to remain anonymous. There are some small and obvious changes I had to make to honour his wish.
Another poster at this message-board has said he believed an MRA organization could be made to work. A lot of people over the last 40 years have agreed with this statement. None of them actually accomplished anything of importance, but they started out with the belief they could. The best of them got some publicity, and from time to time made changes affecting a man or two, but the feminist steam-roller never so much as slowed.How well I know. Been there; done that.
I was active as an individual from 1978 until 1993, and from 1984 till 1993 I supplied no-fee counseling services from my home to divorced and unwed fathers, my Real Daughter did a statistical sampling when she was in the University and estimated I must have worked with over 1,600 men, and a very few non-custodial women (since their problems are virtually identical.) From 1984 till 1987, when a stupid, ignorant bastard broke it up because we didn’t do things his way, I was both counselor and spokesman for the board of directors of a Father’s Rights group. I also read a lot, and studied other groups to see why no one could get any serious participation. (more…)
A woman who killed her lover’s baby convinced him of her innocence for two years after the act, a Sydney judge has been told.
Even after admitting the crime to police, the woman tried to implicate a stranger she met by chance in prison, according to a statement of agreed facts tendered in the NSW Supreme Court yesterday.
Then there are the many cases of false sexual allegations. Which the cops themselves have to protect themselves from.
Now lying isn’t the exclusive domain of feminised western women. However the difference is that these women feel entitled to take these actions to get what they want. Even when they are caught out lying they still try to blame someone else. No matter how petty their wants are or how terrible the consequences are. They seem to believe they have done nothing wrong.
This seems to be a hall mark of feminism. Ancedotally it also seems to be more common in women above and below a certain age. Personally I don’t see many 21 year old or 71 year old women behaving this way. However in other age groups this attitude seems to come up fairly often. I have a recent example of this that I’ll share with you in another post.
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NZ teacher Peter Joyce’s settled life was disrupted when a woman he had never met accused him of historic rape. With a unique brand of angry humour, his diary plots the stages of his despair and traces his attempts to find justice in the face of the current insistence that we must “believe the victim”.
Dry Ice is a compelling memoir, but much more. The accusation made the writer a reluctant expert on similar cases from all over the world. He throws light on everything that limits public knowledge of false sexual allegations, from dangerous counselling to flawed statistics, and he exposes police investigation methods as blinkered, inefficient and insensitive.
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Peter Joyce writes a blog: www.blackstonesdrum.com
