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Thu 23rd August 2007

Waitakere Focus on Fathering Week

Filed under: Events — Julie @ 9:04 pm

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What’s coming up for Fathering Week?

  • Photo exhibit of local dads plus community support for fathering at Waitakere Central railway air bridge, Railside Avenue, Henderson.
    1. Make sure your dad’s photo is displayed on the air bridge!
  • Supporting New Dads Forum
    1. Tuesday 28th August 7pm – 9pm
      Supporting new fathers panel and group discussion with Frank Hayes of New Born Fathers , Chris Davidson of Man Alive and Joe Waru of Family Works Northern. Supper Provided
  • Free Health Check
    1. Wednesday 29th August: 9:30 am – 4pm
      Health West health check bus will be parked in Station Road between the City Council building, the railway station and the Westfield Mall. Health checks free to men aged 35-75. Look out for the bus and go in to give your kids the best gift of all, a healthy father!
  • Active Movement and Games
    1. Thursday 30th August (7pm – 9pm at The Trusts Stadium)
      Contact: Sport Waitakere on 837 4849
  • Playback Theatre – Stories of Dads
    1. Saturday 1st September 7pm – 8.30pm, (Unitec)
      Contact Violence Free Waitakere 837 4849
  • Brothers Event
    1. Sunday 2nd September (all day event)
      For details contact (09) 836 6683 or www.waipareira.com
  • Father’s Day for the whole family
    1. Call 839 0288 extn 729
  • Journey to the Falls
    1. 8 & 9 September
      For those dads and sons who are fit. Overnight stay on the West Coast.
      Contact: Ron or Steve at Change Works on (09) 832 2720, 021 414857 or [email protected]

    For more information check out waitakere.govt.nz

    The NZ Forum on the family – Family First NZ

    Filed under: Events — Julie @ 4:58 pm

    The NZ forum on the family will bring together a national network of pro-family and pro-life organisations, scholars, lobby groups and leaders that seek to promote and protect the well beings of families, the roles of parents and the welfare of our children.

    Details and registration

    John Tamihere is standing for Mayor of Waitakere

    Filed under: General — Julie @ 4:50 pm

    John Tamihere will run for the mayoralty in the October 2007 elections. John Tamihere is presently the Waipareira Trust chief executive and has been speaking up for men’s rights and will be speaking at Family First’s NZ forum on the family meeting in October 2007 on the topic of ‘Engaging the political process’ He was an MP for the Labor Party until Ian Wishart had coffee with him. lol

    scoop.co.nz

    Anti-male initiatives

    Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 11:17 am

    As well as the gender-specific interrogation of female hospital patients, other government anti-domestic violence initiatives are arising. Check out the information provided by the WINZ programme. Note how the pictures show only a man abusing a woman and later feeling remorseful. Note also the emphasis on sharing information with other departments. So if some unqualified WINZ feminist suspects domestic violence people can expect to be hassled by police, CYFS etc. I have asked to view the relevant guidelines given to WINZ staff for identifying and responding to possible domestic violence, and for their training programme and training providers. I don’t expect they will want to pass on this information though.

    Wed 22nd August 2007

    Family Matters?

    Filed under: General — Scrap_The_CSA @ 10:39 pm

    Terry Carson: Court struggles to stand tall in a community where family matters
    5:00AM Wednesday August 22, 2007

    The Family Court Matters Bill before Parliament is apparently designed to improve the standing of the Family Court in the eyes of the community……………………

    While much of our family law legislation continues to lack any connection with the values still held in most parts of our community, the Family Court is likely to continue to struggle to attain the respect it should have.

    * Terry Carson is a South Auckland lawyer, with more than 35 years practising in the Family Court

    Mon 20th August 2007

    The Fashioning of Men’s Minds

    Filed under: General — Rob Case @ 5:14 pm

    A no-holds-barred critique of the methods used by women, mothers in particular, to shape a man’s thoughts and behaviour. Recognise any of it? (Originally posted here)

    This is The Rude Guy. The Medicine Man of Men’s issues. The audio antidote, to the mass Shaming of Men.

    On earlier shows I talked about how our country is run by feminized men. Men who are winsome and charming and tricky and changeable. Men with no detectable moral center. Duplicitous men who lie and deceive. George W Bushes and Bill Clintons and Karl Roves and Dick Cheneys. How the hell did this happen? How did the worst possible species of men, the most feminized men, the LEAST honest men, become the most successful men? (more…)

    Invitation to Kidz Need Dadz Opening

    Filed under: Events — JohnPotter @ 4:59 pm

    Kidz Need Dadz Inc. and Union of Fathers invite all present, past or prospective members of UOF to the official opening of Kidz Need Dadz’ new premises at 538 Fraser St, Tauranga on Sunday 2nd September at 2pm followed by a BBQ.

    Kidz Need Dadz Logo

    More information from Sheila Ewart:

    Kidz need Dadz is the charity arm of UOF. We have leased a 3 bedroom house in Tauranga for offices, meeting room and training facility as well as for fathers in need of emergency accommodation and to accommodate fathers that travel to Tauranga to have contact with their children. We have only just taken it over so the next twelve months will be busy and interesting.

    Postal address: PO Box 15 155, Tauranga.

    Sat 18th August 2007

    Families Commission: The Couch’s poll number 12

    Filed under: General — Vman @ 3:42 pm

    Our latest poll: you tell us!

    This poll we are doing something different. Rather than setting a
    specific topic, we’re turning it over to you. We invite you to tell us what’s important for your family right now, and any ideas you may have for future poll topics. Log in to The Couch and have your say.

    Visit http://www.thecouch.org.nz/poll/takepoll/19 to log in and take
    the poll. We look forward to your feedback!

    If you have any further questions about The Couch, please contact us at [email protected] or by post at The Couch, Families Commission, Box 2839, Wellington.

    Giving New Zealand families a voice Te reo o te whānau.

    Lincoln Memorial Evacuated As F4J Breach US Security

    Filed under: General — Rob Case @ 1:26 pm

    Father’s for Justice activists have climbed the Lincoln Memorial in Washington DC today, dressing as Batman and Captain America and unfurling a banner reading ‘For the fathers of the nation: Fathers for Justice has arrived : www.F4JUSA.com’.

    Armed Capitol Police and the FBI quickly evacuated the memorial and arrested several ground crew and tourists as scuffles on the ground ensued.

    The protest marks the start of the group’s US campaign.

    (from Glenn Sacks).

    Fri 17th August 2007

    Turner slams Family Court Bill

    Filed under: General,Law & Courts — UF @ 3:23 pm

    UnitedFuture deputy leader Judy Turner says the Family Court Matters Bill just introduced to Parliament fails to address any of the major problems of the Family Court.

    http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PA0708/S00311.htm

    (link? icon brings up a blank box)

    Judges to wear gowns to give Family Court ‘gravitas’

    Filed under: Law & Courts — MurrayBacon @ 11:56 am

    Judges’ gowns are to make a comeback in the Family Court after its principal judge called for a change to help the court to be taken more seriously.
    Family Court judges and lawyers are currently forbidden by law from wearing either gowns or wigs “to prevent unnecessary formality”.
    Principal Judge Peter Boshier said he asked for a return of the gowns to raise the gravitas of the court in the public’s eye.
    “I felt the Family Court ought to be seen by the public as a court that makes decisions that should be respected.
    “We have suffered a little bit in the past from some people who have not taken Family Court decisions as seriously as they otherwise would have.
    “So the introduction of the gowns is symbolic but important. It shows the court is a mainstream court whose decisions should be viewed no differently from any other court.”
    extract NZ Herald

    MGTOW as a Force Shaping Society

    Filed under: General — Rob Case @ 9:18 am

    The following comment was left by Paul Parmenter on the blog The World According to Bob, in response to Bob’s post advocating a nation of men.

    It’s one of the better outlines of the thinking behind MGTOW.

    Some serious thoughts here, Bob. But I have considerable doubts that a formally constituted Men’s Nation, or whatever structure you might propose, would necessarily work.

    Once it was set up, it would immediately be under attack and vulnerable because it would constitute a target. The weakness of any formal organisation is its very formality. If it has a head, then cutting off the head kills the organisation. If it has specific funding, then cutting off the funding has the same effect. If it relies on meetings, then breaking up the meetings can stifle its growth. History is full of examples. Look at how easy it became to destroy the original F4J movement in the UK. All it took was a (probably bogus and very weak) claim in a misandric newspaper, and the structure collapsed overnight. Every structure has its weakest point, and pressure exerted on that weak point brings the whole thing down.

    I suggest that a better future lies in individual men taking control of their own lives. (more…)

    Thu 16th August 2007

    Shops ban girl, 5, for two years

    Filed under: General — Vman @ 6:08 pm

    The Timaru Herald | Thursday, 16 August 2007

    A five-year-old girl has been served a trespass notice banning her from two supermarkets for two years for stealing a $1.50 bag of lollies.

    The girl and her eight-year-old friend were caught shoplifting the sweets at Timaru’s Woolworths supermarket on Saturday afternoon.

    They were with an 18-year-old, but he left the supermarket before the children were caught by the store’s duty manager.

    The children were asked to sign their names on a trespass order forbidding them to set foot in both Woolworths and Countdown for two years.

    Police were called and took the children home.


    Full story is here
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    There are fine young women out there.

    Filed under: General — Vman @ 10:53 am

    I see a lot of? intelligent young? NZ women? everyday. The majority are slim and attractive. Generally, they aren’t very feminine but many of them are very fine people.

    I live with 2 beautiful, intelligent, caring? women in their mid twenties. Yes I know — lucky me, but I am not telling you this to make you jealous. Every now and then they explain to me why they don’t like some famous actress or female singer. Invariably it turns out that the celebrity in question is selfish and either had treated a man or talked/sung about men in very derogatory ways. ?

    I am not talking about the Paris Hiltons and Nichole Richies that even I know about. I am talking about A list celebrities and top pop stars that I used to think were hot and had respect for. At least that was until I learnt how my young female friends viewed them. For example, Angelina Jolie was described as a home wrecker. I also didn’t realise what was in some of Rihanna’s lyrics. ?

    Now I realise it is not news that celebrities often make poor role models. My point is that these young women are aware, that many female celebrities portray often subtle, but very negative views, of how men should be treated. They don’t like those messages at all. ?

    I have this theory that females mature more quickly than males up until they reach their twenties. By around their mid twenties females seem to divide into 2 groups. There are the ones that get their life together and are thinking long term. They? are selective about the? other people in their life and they think about the consequences of things. Then there are the ones that just seem to stop maturing. Many of those in the latter group are simply not good marriage material. They have “issues” like all the rest of us, but they never deal with their issues. In many cases, eventually their “issues” manifest themselves in that they take them out on other people. ?

    Young men could be aided by some helpful advice about how to identify the 2 different types. Of course once they see a beautiful woman they are bound to forget about the advice. However the world has always been that way and it never stopped older generations giving advice before. My personal approach is to explain my own experiences, when prompted. Then to let young people draw their own conclusions. It is slower but more effective.

    It is important to encourage the good marriage material not just bag the bad apples.

    Tue 14th August 2007

    NZ Herald Wants FC Experiences

    Filed under: General — Rob Case @ 9:53 am

    The NZ Herald ran a story today indicating that Family Court custody rulings are primarily determined by who applies first (though it concedes mothers outnumber fathers on this basis).

    They’re asking for public experiences of the FC here.

    Mon 13th August 2007

    How to control adults by means of ‘children’s rights’

    Filed under: General — Vman @ 7:32 pm

    This should be required reading:
    How to control adults by means of ‘children’s rights’
    ?

    By Lynette Burrows

    Parents pushed to the limit

    Filed under: Child Support,General — Scrap_The_CSA @ 12:54 pm

    By GEOFF TAYLOR – Waikato Times | Saturday, 11 August 2007

    Many parents believe they get the sharp end of our child support system
    and end up with a burden they struggle to sustain. Geoff Taylor reports.

    “She is my flesh and blood and I love her dearly,” says Lovich.

    “I do, however, have to question why it takes $177 a week to feed and clothe her.”

    Shouldn’t Lovich accept that child support is a fact of life? That it’s never going to be easy?

    “I accept that but you should be able to live life without struggling to this extent.

    “I’m sure there are a hell of a lot of other people out there in the same boat.”

    Sun 12th August 2007

    Poor Women

    Filed under: Child Support,General,Law & Courts,Men's Health — Downunder @ 4:43 pm

    Retirement Commissioner Diana Crossan agrees women should educate themselves and start saving for retirement. “A man is not a financial plan,” she says.

    Auckland University economics lecturer Susan St John says linking a tax credit only to paid work cheapens the importance of caregiving.

    “Once you start to reward work and tie saving incentives to work, then you are devaluing caregiving.”

    St John also suggests that women, who are more likely to be caregivers, are valued (by the scheme) only if they are working.

    “We need to be clear as a society that caregiving is actually work.”

    But basic calculators provided on KiwiSaver websites don’t take into account the years women are likely to spend out of fulltime work – meaning,

    You thought marriage was safe – here comes child support payments for the

    unseparated men.

    Sat 11th August 2007

    There are ways around the Act

    Filed under: Law & Courts — JohnPotter @ 3:27 pm

    Sent from a NZ father via Jim Bagnall

    In the past Marriage Guidance Counselors have supported me but this has had no effect on the Court. I now have a new two year old relationship. Things are working now how they are meant to be and things are falling into place.

    The public needs to know about my struggles. Some things should be private but some things should be known by the public about our Family Court legal system.

    So I want to share my desperation with you. I want to show how my children are being treated and most of all I want the public to be on a learning curve about the so called Family Court.

    After 4 years I finally won a judgment for my Children to have contact with me. But Counsel for the Child applied for a stay of Judgment backed by a University based psychologist and Counsel for mother, of course.

    These Litigation guardians are challenging the Family Court Judges’ competence, authority, integrity and Impartiality. If it’s up to the Litigation guardians, these children will never have a father. The Litigation guardians persuade the children to fear their father. They persuade the children to disregard the Judge’s decision.

    Looking forward to seeing your father after nearly 4 years of constant brain washing is crushed by the Litigation guardians portraying him as some sort of mean person. Now I may not ever see one of my children who has serious health problems.

    They stayed the Judge’s judgment, they appealed the Judge’s judgment (at my and tax payers expense) and now we are looking at serious money for me to defend the appeal in the High Court. In desperation I have to withdraw in an effort to ensure that my children in my x-wife’s care are not subjected to more psychological abuse and pressure from these so called professionals.

    So with a sad heart, I withdrew my application to contact my children after having been given a judgment to do so. Will the children ever know the truth about my withdrawal?

    The University based psychologist told me after the judgment that “there are ways around the Act” I am now witnessing one of these. How many more will there be?

    So the Litigation guardians want to keep separated parents on their angry negative money-go-round. That is their real agenda. These so called professionals should have no involvement with families in difficulties.

    I don’t have the right to publish names but you have a right to know what really goes on in the Family Court. The Family Court is no place for parents at war because one parent can use children against the other.

    Fri 10th August 2007

    Why MR/FR Groups Fail

    Filed under: General — Rob Case @ 10:38 pm

    The following comments were left recently on a private message-board. I have the author’s permission to post it here, though he has asked to remain anonymous. There are some small and obvious changes I had to make to honour his wish.

    Another poster at this message-board has said he believed an MRA organization could be made to work. A lot of people over the last 40 years have agreed with this statement. None of them actually accomplished anything of importance, but they started out with the belief they could. The best of them got some publicity, and from time to time made changes affecting a man or two, but the feminist steam-roller never so much as slowed.How well I know. Been there; done that.

    I was active as an individual from 1978 until 1993, and from 1984 till 1993 I supplied no-fee counseling services from my home to divorced and unwed fathers, my Real Daughter did a statistical sampling when she was in the University and estimated I must have worked with over 1,600 men, and a very few non-custodial women (since their problems are virtually identical.) From 1984 till 1987, when a stupid, ignorant bastard broke it up because we didn’t do things his way, I was both counselor and spokesman for the board of directors of a Father’s Rights group. I also read a lot, and studied other groups to see why no one could get any serious participation. (more…)

    The ways of certain women

    Filed under: Domestic Violence — Vman @ 6:11 pm

    A woman who killed her lover’s baby convinced him of her innocence for two years after the act, a Sydney judge has been told.

    Even after admitting the crime to police, the woman tried to implicate a stranger she met by chance in prison, according to a statement of agreed facts tendered in the NSW Supreme Court yesterday.

    The full story here.

    Then there are the many cases of false sexual allegations. Which the cops themselves have to protect themselves from.

    Now lying isn’t the exclusive domain of feminised western women. However the difference is that these women feel entitled to take these actions to get what they want. Even when they are caught out lying they still try to blame someone else. No matter how petty their wants are or how terrible the consequences are. They seem to believe they have done nothing wrong.

    This seems to be a hall mark of feminism. Ancedotally it also seems to be more common in women above and below a certain age. Personally I don’t see many 21 year old or 71 year old women behaving this way. However in other age groups this attitude seems to come up fairly often. I have a recent example of this that I’ll share with you in another post.

    The link between child abuse and father absence

    Filed under: Domestic Violence — Vman @ 4:36 pm

    Even someone who was with CYFS is aware of what the key problem is:

    “In a 20-year career mostly with Child, Youth and Family Services (CYFS), Mr Waru sees that the key problem in most troubled families is an absent father – either physically separated or “present but absent” because he simply doesn’t know how to connect with his children.”

    It is not as if this hasn’t been widely known for some years:

    “Seldom does public policy stand in such direct defiance of undisputed truths, to the point where the cause of the problem — separating children from their fathers — is presented as the solution, and the solution — allowing children to grow up with their fathers — is depicted as the problem. If you want to encourage child abuse, remove the fathers.”

    (more…)

    Who’s up for a little civil disobediance?

    Filed under: General — Vman @ 2:10 pm

    Who’s up for a little civil disobediance?

    Two motorists stopped traffic on 2 lanes of the Harbour Bridge for 3 minutes in protest at the lack of action on child abuse.

    Perhaps we should do the same thing but as a protest at the lack of reporting and acknowledgement:
    (a) that biological father absence is the key indicator of child abuse risk
    and
    (b) the Family Court’s role in covering up the fact it excluded biological fathers from children’s lives who were subsequently tortured to death.

    Dr Viv Roberts
    “has reason to believe” that “in both cases that are in the media; Nia Glassie in Rotorua and [Tyla-Maree] Flynn who was burnt in Tokoroa, went through the family court very recently. Clearly the Family Court failed those children very badly.”

    He goes on to explain that the law prevents him stating what he knows about the Family Court cases or even admitting that he knows anything, so he has to say that he “has reason to believe”.

    Children in custody

    Filed under: Boys / Youth / Education,General,Law & Courts — Downunder @ 9:33 am

    from ABC.

    Children as young as 10 in custody

    The report says there are hundreds of children under the age of 13 in custody.

    But the report also shows the younger someone is put in custody the more likely they are to reoffend.

    Lesbian Mom Describes How She Got the Dad Treatment

    Filed under: General — Vman @ 12:18 am

    Glen Sacks provides us insight into the irony of this topical story in the USA.

    Highlights include:

    Miller’s actions read like a checklist of what heterosexual women do to the fathers of their children:

    1) Move the child far way from the child’s noncustodial parent after the divorce or separation–check.

    2) Deny the noncustodial parent the opportunity to visit or co-parent the child–check.

    3) Make an unsupported, dubious and oh-so-convenient accusation of abuse against the noncustodial parent–check.

    4) Pretend that the noncustodial parent is out-of-line or acting against the child’s best interests by wanting to continue the relationship with the child–check.

    Other familiar highlights include: the relationship was ended by the child’s birth mother, just as most marriages are ended by mothers, not fathers; and the relationship soured because–guess what–the birth mother was hormonal and unstable during and after her pregnancy.

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