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Mon 31st July 2006

Debtors Prisons alive and well in USA for Child Support.

Filed under: General — Paul Catton @ 9:33 pm

Good People & People of Faith,

Tomorrow, at about 4 PM, I’ll report to the Jamesville Correctional
Facility (near Syracuse, NY) for a six month sentence for what the
system says is a ‘willful failure to support my child.’ If you are
new to this and need the background, please check
http://www.AKidsRight.Org/support_jm.htm

Tomorrow I’ll tell the system:
—————————–

“No, I won’t answer any processing questions.”
“No, I won’t walk with you or go where you say — you’ll have
to drag me.”
“No, I won’t eat your food or drink your water — you’ll have
to keep me hydrated via IV, and feed me via tube.”
“No, I’m not doing this to protest jail conditions or the
treatment of prisoners. I’m doing this because I do not
belong here and an unjust system sent me here.”
“No, nothing you can do will change this until I am released
from jail and have my freedom again.”
“No, I don’t want to hurt myself.”

“Yes, I will talk with you and treat you with courtesy and respect.”
“Yes, I will tell you how very, very much I love my son.”
“Yes, I’m doing this because I should not be a prisoner.
I should not be in jail. My most basic rights are being
violated.”
“Yes, I wish to make myself a burden if I’m kept a prisoner.”
“Yes, I know this will make your job a burden. I’m sorry.
But I’m not the reason this is happening. The system isn’t
working….basic family rights are not protected”

I’ll tell you I am a bit anxious about what is going to happen. How
far will I have to go? How much sacrifice will be required? Have I
done all the preparation necessary to get ready?
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Sunday Bothering 30th July 2006

Filed under: General — Paul Catton @ 8:44 pm

The intrepid ones started to gather at “The Manor” from 12.30pm.
Prime News had sent along a filming unit and reporter.
Jim gave a pre protest interview whilst the stragglers arrived.
Convoy departed for a visit to Shona Deluens. We all know about Shona, dont we?
Ben let Shona know how she has failed in her duties, and Jim did too, the “Nazi Banner” was suited to the residence.

Second visit was at Ross France’s, and did you catch that on the camera sir, the megaphone was calling the tune when out came a resident with a water cannon (actually a hose, but it had fantastic pressure – who needs a water blaster in Mt Albert).
Ben got a dousing, then I got a greater torrent, I reached for the water main cover and had the resident pick up a boulder and hurl it at me.
Very shortly afterward the Police arrived, Four Officers in three cars.
The Senior police officer asked what had taken place regarding the incident that had been called in.
The reply was “that a peaceful, completely lawful & democratic protest was taking place outside the residence of a Family Court Lawyer and that the Protesters had been assaulted by a resident with water and a boulder.
Corroboration will be on the footage of the Prime News Filming Unit”.

Most of the Convoy then left for the next target.

Meanwhile, the Police had a chat with the resident, they then went to the Prime coverage team and reviewed the material, they then took a statement from myself and have said they will be following up and will be in touch.

With that the Jeff, Ben, Opal and I caught up with the team at Lisa Halford’s.
Lisa didn’t appear to be at home, but we gave it 10 minutes to let the neighbourhood know about her ethics.

Diane Ransfield was next on the list, Shaun’s Counsel for Child, I wasn’t really happy about her inclusion as she appears to now show some indedpendency from Surgenor ( yes, if the cap fits).
As I don’t have input into the list the bothering still had to be carried out.

Finally it was back to Mr Stuart Cummings who had promised Mike dialogue and some form of action to resolve his issues, which haven’t been carried out so we were there to remind him, hopefully Stuart will now do the decent thing.

Grey Lynn Park for the wined down and BBQ, really it is the highlight.
Sausages sizzling, Chicken charring, chatter and comradeship.

Hope to see more of you there next time,

Kind regards
Paul

Pleeeeease!

Filed under: General — dpex @ 6:41 pm

Will someone pleeeease provide the goss for what happened on Sunday. I heard on the news today that the hose-lady was to be charged with assault with a weapon of Mass Watering.:–)) I have to assume that you guys are way above pressing charges.

Surely, in doing so, you all just join the ranks of the rabid PC brigade.

Cheers
David.

Sun 30th July 2006

When is assault not assault?

Filed under: General — Frank & Earnest @ 6:55 pm

One man I know was held by the Family Court to be violent, because he threw cold water (a bucket full) over his (then) wife (in their bed, committing adultary).
He was charged with assault. He had to leave his family home. He was subject to a protection order. He had to attend a femi-nazi programme learning not to be violent.

On TV tonight, I witnessed a woman throwing cold water (via a hose) over two of the fathers protesting in Auckland. I didn’t catch who she is, or her profession.

Will she be charged with assault? If she is a family court lawyer, will she be ordered to undertake a ‘living without violence’ programme? Has she any children? Will she be restricted to supervised contact only with them? Will she be required to leave her home where the assault occurred? Will the assaulted men be awarded protection orders against her?

If not, why not?

Says It All 2

Filed under: General — dpex @ 7:38 am

Why Labour despises the family
Daily Mail, 27 July 2006

When New Labour came to power in 1997, a battle royal took place within its ranks over the issue of the family.

In one camp was Tony Blair, who understood that family breakdown was the hole at the heart of British society and who wanted to strengthen the two-parent family. Ranged against him was just about everyone else, all of whom thought that every form of relationship should be afforded equal status. The Prime Minister lost this argument hands-down.

The result was the lame formula subsequently adopted by his Government that it supported marriage and every other type of ‘family’, too — a transparently verbal camouflage for a relationship free-for-all.
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Fri 28th July 2006

Poms Scrap thier Child Support Agency

Filed under: General — Stephen @ 12:27 pm

CSA: goodbye – and good riddance?

Parents who don’t pay up could get electronic tags
After thirteen troubled years, the Child Support Agency is to be scrapped in its current form.
Ministers are expected to set out plans later today to dismantle the CSA. Its replacement will be a slimmed down agency which will concentrate on those absent parents who refuse to pay up.

LINK ->

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/breakfast/5208976.stm

Thu 27th July 2006

What if the genders were reversed?

Filed under: General — Paul Catton @ 10:21 pm

Browsing through the international media, I stumbled across this snippet.
Is Sweden really an option for Shaun???
Woman politician cleared of child rape

She’s definitely not a Republican

See you all on Sunday at the protest.

Regards
Paul

Honey I Drowned Our 5 Kids Mrs. Yates Found Not Guilty!!!

Filed under: General — Intrepid @ 1:24 pm

Dateline: US
Author: Pit Bull
From: The Honor Network

Houston Mother Who Systematically Drowned her Five Children in the Family Bathtub Found not Guilty by Reason of Insanity

Well here we have another example for two justice systems (one for men and one for women). “Equality” where are you now! Mrs. Yates benefit from the old ways for women yet again in our modern times, and you won’t hear anyone crying out for equality in the mainstream press.

“If this were a man” kinda seems tiring to shout out, for it has gotten so common with no one seeming to care about how unjust it all is. Yet stick it in your cap and use it to modivate yourself is your activsim.

Mrs. Yates will be committed to a state mental hospital, with periodic hearings before a judge to determine whether she should be released on th public. She could have lived a life in prison if convicted, but I guess she is only a woman.

Her lawyers never disputed that Mrs. Yates killed her five children — 6-month-old Mary, 2-year-old Luke, 3-year-old Paul, 5-year-old John and 7-year-old Noah — by drowning them over serveral hours in a bathtub of their suburban Houston home in June 2001.

The shear terror of the children awaiting their turn in the tub, must have been set aside out of the women’s superior motherly love trumping any brutal male backward form of revenge justice. How’s that slogan for the feminists!

In 2002 another jury found Yates guilty of murder in the deaths of three of her children. Due to erroneous testimony she will be out and about before long, and count on someone blaming a man or the church for her badness.

The old ways or the new ways seem to be used whenever a woman need them, while men get a mix of their own old and new, but always to their lose.

Looking at possible remedies for the Family Court

Filed under: Law & Courts — New Zeal @ 8:57 am

The current focus of the Family Court is on ‘best interest of the child’. This, I would say, is something that is very difficult to determine. Also it ignores the presence of the parents, both mother and father and since the mother invariably ends up with the child, this makes the Family Court appear to be anti-father.

One possible remedy for this is to have the Family Court focus on the parent-child relationship. For every child in question there would be two parent-child relationships, one with the mother and one with the father. At the start of family court proceedings, if mediation fails, and it looks like the court will have to make a decision, these relationships would be assessed by a psychologist. The aim of the family court then would be to preserve parent-child relationships, while at the same time attempt to resolve disputes. Lawyers would be instructed to remove all references in affidavits that attack the spouses parent-child relationship. Parents would be given firmer instructions than at present about denigrating the other parent in front of the children. It is inevitable in most family court disputes that there are feelings surrounding marital separation to deal with and these often overflow into the area of parent-child relationships. The family court should emphasize and educate about the need to keep these separate, maybe providing parents with workshops run by organizations such as ParentLine.

Benefits of the parent-child focus:

The court would be required to recognize the importance of the parent. This is especially beneficial to fathers, who, with the current focus on the child, tend to miss out, and feel that the court is anti-father. Getting on side with the father means that, the chances of material and emotional support from both parents and not just the ‘custodial’ parent is more likely. It also makes the chances of shared parenting work better. Ultimately it has got to be better for the child if both parent-child relationships are preserved, not to mention being better for the father and mother.

Features:

The parent-child focus would require the parents to work on having the (negative) marital issues that separate them be countered by the (positive) parent-child relationships that draw them together (or at least draw them to their children). Parents have to learn to separate their relationship with the ex-spouse from that which they have with their children. The family court is a large enough institution to create the culture for this to happen.

The parent-child focus would require some complex assessments and psychological involvement in order to guide the court. It would be hoped that time currently spent on time-wasting adversarial contests could instead be used for this task and that parents would learn to be better parents as a result of the process.

Tue 25th July 2006

Sunday, Agenda – Family Law Reform

Filed under: General — Paul Catton @ 10:36 pm

Sunday 30th July will see the ardent reformists take our exhortation out into the public domain in front of the unethical legal workers palatial retreats.
Or simply put, The Coalition are going a bothering!!!!!!

Meeting point is 3 Manor Place, Pt Chevalier at 12.30pm, Convoy leaves at 1.00pm.

Although we are having considerable success in bringing public awareness to the plight of many that find themselves being shafted through unethical Family Law practices, we do need to keep the pot on the burner, therefore to capitalize and enhance the different efforts being thrust at State Endorsed Abusers, please make every effort to attend and not leave it to the interpid regulars.
Make the stand, be a Nelson Mandela, a Gandhi or an Emmilene Pankhurst.
The Nations children have a right to an equal dose of Mum & Dad.
Your participation may just be that straw that buggered the camel.

Wined down and BBQ at Grey Lynn Park at conclusion.
I have some nice Chicken Sausages and I have made a delicious Red Wine & Mushroom Pate contributing to our feast.

If transport is required please drop me a line
paulcat@woosh.co.nz

Kind Regards
Paul

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