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Thu 26th February 2015

Gender News Update

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 1:18 pm

Here’s a female psychologist suggesting that men should be complaining as much as women about being parents. She thinks men should be as self-centred as women rather than being grateful for their blessings and having a strong commmitment to their duties. Interesting stuff especially the readers’ comments. (more…)

White Fibbin’ at it again

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 8:59 am

Here is the latest email campaign from the anti-male hate speakers of the White Fibbin’ Campaign. Note the statement “..our mission to end men’s violence towards women”, making their sexist, unbalanced agenda clear.

Sadly, it’s futile to try to reason with the White Fibbers. If you try to point out that violence is not exclusively a male issue, that forms of violence more commonly committed by females can be extremely harmful, or that men are in fact the most frequent victims of domestic violence and by far the most frequent victims of violence in our society generally and that even though much of that violence is committed by other men, male victims should not be treated as unimportant in any anti-violence campaign, the White Fibbers will simply delete your comments, block any further debate then justify this by denigrating you and telling lies about what you said. Given that kind of violence, you can be sure that behind the scenes the White Fibbers will be keeping records about anyone who disagrees with them, and at some stage we can expect feminist thought police to kick in our doors and imprison us on some manufactured charge. (more…)

Fri 20th February 2015

Is the Ban on Using Force in Discipline Working?

Filed under: Boys / Youth / Education,Gender Politics,General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 9:32 am

The anti-smacking law (actually the anti-use-of-force-in-discipline law) was based largely on feminist ideology. The idea that male characteristics of size and strength should be allowed to be used to exert ‘power and control’ was anathema to feminists, and they projected their sense of injustice on to the matter of raising and disciplining children. State-sponsored sole parenthood often involved rejection of male influence in raising children and the anti-smacking law was an extension of this.

Instead of using any physical force in discipline to teach children some fear of consequences and that adults will take control where necessary, adults such as teachers now are allowed only to call police and/or to use female-type violence such as ostracizing (through suspension and expulsion), labeling as ‘bad’ or ‘sick’ and manipulation of children in an effort to have them feel guilty and unacceptable.

Is the current law serving our society and the next generation’s development? Having removed rights from adults to use force and leaving such rights exclusively with agents of the state such as police, is this benefiting our society? Are our children becoming less violent as we follow the principle of ‘not modelling violence, power and control’ in the way we manage our children? (more…)

Thu 19th February 2015

Mojo Mathers MP Spreads False Propaganda

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 10:40 am

A Community Group because successive governments have neglected the voice and welfare of New Zealand men

PO Box 13130, Tauranga 3141
Contact Hans Laven (07)5712435 or (0274)799745; or Kerry Bevin (09)4247762; mmainnz@gmail.com

19 February 2015

Hon Mojo Mathers MP
Parliament Buildings
Sent via email to Mojo.Mathers@parliament.govt.nz

Dear Ms Mathers

In the context of debating the composition of the Intelligence Committee, you were quoted in the NZ Herald today as stating that “every day skilled women found themselves overlooked for jobs or promotion, or competing with men with far less experience and ability”. (more…)

Family Hero Falls Ill

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 10:10 am

A Community Group because successive governments have neglected the voice and welfare of New Zealand men

PO Box 13130, Tauranga 3141
Contact Hans Laven (07)5712435 or (0274)799745; or Kerry Bevin (09)4247762; mmainnz@gmail.com


19 February 2015


Ministry of Men’s Affairs spokesman Kerry Bevin says that many kiwi men and their families will be saddened by Jim Bagnall’s terminal prostate cancer. (more…)

Tue 17th February 2015

A Great loss to NZ

Filed under: General — triassic @ 12:04 pm

Celia Lashlie passed away today after suffering from cancer. She was a very wise woman and a great advocate in the education of raising healthy young males in our society. She will be sorely missed and I salute her for her brave stance in our matriachal ideologically driven society.

Four Yorkshiremen on Divorce

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 9:09 am

1. My ex got 90% of all assets after separation!

90%. Sheer luxury. Sheer bloody luxury.

2. I only got 5% and all the debts.

3. You guys don’t know how lucky you are.

All I got was me gumboots.

You guys just don’t know how lucky you are.

4. Gumboots. You got your gumboots.

I was kicked out of house, naked, with no clothes on.

It was middle of bloody winter …

1. Sorry to interrupt, but now that I have, I’m going to take advantage of that.

That’s nothing. Now I …

Put your one-up in the comments.

Sun 15th February 2015

Systematic Discrimination Against Fathers

Filed under: Gender Politics,General,Law & Courts — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 10:08 am

Unbelievable Duplicity Story number 73,456,864: “International tug-of-war in custody fight”. In order to pursue her own career, this mother deliberately abducted the daughter to the USA against the wishes of the girl’s father and denied the girl a meaningful relationship with the father for some years. She arranged a fake contact visit with the father to distract him from her real plan to leave the country, then took off with the child while the father waited to see his daughter. She then failed to honour agreements concerning returning the child to NZ. (more…)

Fri 13th February 2015

Fifty Shades of Grey

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 8:40 am

Source Article:

Lloyd, who engages with victims at the point where they require or have obtained a protection order against their alleged abusers, said the issue for the court was whether what took place was domestic violence.

“The legal argument is about whether there was domestic violence given there was consent,” she said.

“Well, how can you say whipping someone with canes and chains until they’re bleeding raw, is not violence?

“In the Family Court, when you’re looking at whether a protection order is needed, a judge must be satisfied there has been domestic violence. It doesn’t mention consent.”

Conservative Christian lobby group Family First NZ this week called for the public to boycott the film and donate the admission fee to a local women’s refuge.

For anyone who is old enough to remember the railing against the likes of the musical ‘Hair’ and the film ‘Last Tango in Paris’ by the religious sector of the community, this becomes interesting reading.

If you take away the circumstances that surround this argument, and put it between the sheets generally, it becomes a case of even though there was consent, the manner of sexual participation may or may not be domestic violence depending on a ruling from the Family Court (by examination of a woman’s evidence) when a protection order is applied for.

There’s something to think about.

Wed 11th February 2015

Is Valentines all about women?

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 9:53 am

First what’s it all about?

As much as I am a little cautious about referring to Wikipedia, this seems reasonable enough.

There is no evidence of any link between St. Valentine’s Day and the rites of the ancient Roman festival, despite many claims by many authors.[15][37][notes 1] The celebration of Saint Valentine did not have any romantic connotations until Chaucer’s poetry about “Valentines” in the 14th century.[21] Popular modern sources claim links to unspecified Greco-Roman February holidays alleged to be devoted to fertility and love to St. Valentine’s Day, but prior to Chaucer in the 14th century, there were no links between the Saints named Valentinus and romantic love.[21] Earlier links as described above were focused on sacrifice rather than romantic love. In the ancient Athenian calendar the period between mid-January and mid-February was the month of Gamelion, dedicated to the sacred marriage of Zeus and Hera.

Have the boys been conned here?

I always felt this Valentine’s stuff was a bit of a one way street. I am yet to meet a bloke that said, he’d got a valentine out of the blue from some female – or I am just the unlucky one here? (more…)

Sun 8th February 2015

Men seen as Actors – Women seen as Acted Upon

Filed under: General — Lukenz @ 9:07 am

A short video clip to show why men are treated poorly. It details why some men choose to end their lives.

Fri 6th February 2015

Isn’t this just typical NZ reporting ….

Filed under: General — golfa @ 5:36 pm


Nowhere in this “report” does it say the attacker was a girl. Oh, it says that the victim was a girl, but the gender of the attacker is conveniently omitted throughout. Sexist ? You betcha !

Thu 5th February 2015

Update – Family court Revamp part 3

Filed under: General — nzleagle @ 7:59 pm

Since April 2014 I have been in the system of the New Family court system. my previous posts – http://menz.org.nz/2014/family-court-revamp-part-2

So my last update was up till about the 9th of December, My ex finally accepted a mediation date for the 13th of January 2015. Since one of the primary reasons for restarting the proceedings was to try and get contact for Christmas, I had the court confirm that the current parenting order (from 2010) was still enforceable, and then messaged my ex saying that since she cant have mediation till middle of January I will be forced to enforce the order, so if she could have my son available for the dates as per the order that would be great. I also mentioned to her that if she doesn’t agree either organize a mediation date for before Christmas, or I will be forced to enforce it.

She asked me for the mediators number, and he was not available, she said she would call the following day. 2 days later I have a bailif on my door step serving me with a Without notice application to vary the parenting order, essentially preventing me from enforcing the order, in her application she told the court that I had asked for contact outside the order, and a number of other stretches of the truth and unfactual information. and as a result it was approved. With contact be on agreement, so I text my ex asking when she sees contact occurring, and never got a response.

Come the 13th of January, I had travled from Auckland to Wellington, and was driving up to Palmerston north about 4 hours before the mediation date, when I recieved a phone call from the mediator saying that my ex had pulled out as she had a workplace injury that resulted in a concussion before Christmas. The mediator tried to work something out on the phone, but my ex couldnt even make herself avalible during the time period the mediation was supposed to be.

Thankfully as a result of her without notice application a directions conference was set down for the 4th of Febuary.

At the directions conference the Judge pretty much ripped into the Lawyer for child and Lawyer for my ex asking why contact hasnt been able to be sorted, and it appears to be a straight forward case. So we now have to have a round table meeting within 2 weeks, if no agreement is reached, we are to file detailed proposals for contact and care, and she will either make a decision based on those proposals and evidence previously filed, or set down a hearing.

I also wrote to MP’s about the time frames for the Family Dispute Resolution to occur, and received a response from Amy Adams yesterday stating that the provider contracts specify 35 days from application to mediation occurring. and they will be working with providers to ensure this happens. However delays are inevitable if people need extra time for the prep etc…

Tue 3rd February 2015

UNCROC report by MOJ

Filed under: General — mopardad @ 7:39 am

Hey all, I havent seen this mentioned here so am wondering who is following this, attending the HRC workshops and who will be making a “submission” on the MOJ’s report that it will submit to the UN. I began reading it last night, up to about page 30 and have already picked up 30 points that are in direct contradiction of the treatment of how me, my child and our family have been treated by the MOJ, the FC, the NZ Judiciary and the outcomes of FC proceedings that have seen our bond destroyed and the actual DV and perjury committed by the mother of the child being ignored by the entire government which not surprisingly portrays its handling of Childrens rights in a vastly different light. I believe this is an opportunity for those of us who have had our rights as parents and guardians unlawfully taken from us, as well as our childrens rights being taken from them, to have a voice and make the failings of the MOJ FC and NZ Judiciary more publicly known. I will certainly be voicing the facts in regards to the failings of those involved in our proceedings and those in government who have demonstrated they really dont give 2 f%^ks. If people can file a submission I would be keen to compile them and issue a paper regarding the FC’s failings. THIS IS OUR GREATEST OPPORTUNITY TO BE HEARD YET!!!!

Sat 31st January 2015

Why is Circumcision Not Treated as Sexual Abuse?

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 7:40 am

Circumcision is another example of duplicity in the way many people think about gender issues, and an incredible example of sexism that harms males. Here we see boys having their genitals mutilated through religious and allegedly cultural practice, in ways that cause serious infections placing at risk these boys’ lives, fertility and ability to enjoy sex in their lives. No doubt the pain and fear of the ‘operation’ will also result in post-traumatic problems for many of these boys. National Radio informed us of hospitalizations resulting from these infections, but nobody seems to question why these intentional injuries caused to boys’ genitals are not routinely treated as one of the worst conceivable forms of sexual abuse. If girls were subject to so much as a gentle touch of their genitals, regardless if this was an established cultural practice, our feminist-saturated National Radio would most definitely be calling for the perpetrators to be charged with offences carrying prison tariffs comparable with homicide. If you as a male take or possess a photograph of your daughter in the bath or in any situation where her genitals can be seen, you are at risk of imprisonment. Yet it’s ho-hum ok to take a knife to boys’ penises and that’s not considered a sexual assault. Even if that knife is not properly sterilized and therefore likely to cause serious illness. Incredible.

Thu 22nd January 2015

What do you call organizations you are terrified of?

Filed under: Child Support,General — ashish @ 10:57 pm

What is the difference between IRD and ISIS? Both terrorize non-custodial parents. One kills quickly, while the other kills you slowly over time.

First Woman On The Moon

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 6:03 am

Should we adopt a difference approach for 2015 and throw some humour into the fight against Feminism?

First Woman on the moon

Tue 20th January 2015

NSW Police acknowledge male victims of intimate partner violence

Filed under: Domestic Violence,Gender Politics,General,Law & Courts — MurrayBacon @ 8:25 am

One In Three Campaign


NSW Police today took the rare and long-overdue step of acknowledging male victims of intimate partner violence and their children with this post on their Facebook Page which is quickly going viral, with many supportive comments underneath it.

Sat 17th January 2015

The Island With Bear Grylls – Masculinity in Crisis

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 10:54 am


Interesting concept for a TV show (and I haven’t seen it) if it does look at changes in masculinity, rather than simply being another survivor series.

Has anyone seen it?

But this is amusing.


Short News Review

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 9:52 am

Here are a few recent stories of interest to students of gender issues. (more…)

Thu 15th January 2015

The toothpaste woman escapes with the loot.

Filed under: Domestic Violence,General,Law & Courts — dunnuffinwrong @ 3:53 pm

I refer back to the first post I made 9 months ago back in may 2014 entitled Toothpaste accomplice. I had omitted in the post the fact that the woman had told me she was six weeks pregnant the week earlier. Months later police called me in to tell me “there is no baby”.

So I’ve lived for the past nine months accused of savagely and brutally repeatedly, assaulting a pregnant woman.

Feminist Psychology

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 1:20 pm

We are all well aware of the more recent involvement of psychologists in demonising men, but wait till you get a load of this.

The book ‘Inferiority Feelings’ first published in 1951 and authored by Oliver Brackfeld, translated from French, is online (complete text) in the International library of Psychology

The loquacity (talkativeness) which the experts of last century numbered among the sexual traits of females, homosexuals and effeminate men is the direct outcome of the fear of not being taken seriously.


Wed 14th January 2015

Gravel Soup

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 7:56 am

It’s an expression I’d not heard before and I went looking for an explanation on the net and came across this.

The concept of gravel soup is a soup from left over’s – a bit of anything and everything – that can be added to if not consumed in one day.

A bit of a rough brew.

This guy has drawn an analogy between gravel soup and his father. I can relate to this in my father, but I’m wondering if it is something, as a consequence of metropolitan life, we are less inclined to see in men.

Have men become both less sophisticated and more sophisticated as the environment has changed around them?


Tue 13th January 2015

The discussion on suicide in NZ

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 11:25 am

It’s been a long time coming but with the recent changes around reporting restrictions the subject has received considerable media attention in recent months.

For those that are interested there is a discussion in progress here on Stuff Nation.

Naturally the article is female focused but the comments have attracted some male perspective.

Sun 11th January 2015

Is it failure?

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 4:09 pm

This is NOT a post about suicide.

Japan’s fight to change suicide culture hurt by latest recession

“The economy plays a big role,” in the nation’s suicide rate, said Mafumi Usui, a psychology professor at Niigata Seiryo University. That compounds the problem in Japan, because “the notion lingers that taking your own life is something resolute and decisive, something that’s not wrong,” he said.

There’s a reason this caught my attention. Earlier in the day I had seen one of those social media statements that float around, that said surveys on fears put FAILURE as number one ahead of DEATH.

I have no idea of the truth of that statement, it may or may not be correct.

Putting this together: (more…)

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