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Sat 30th March 2019

R.I.P. Craig Jackson

Filed under: General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 10:34 pm

We have removed our obituary for Craig due to gross disrespect from a contributor here. Disgusting and upsetting.

Thu 28th March 2019

The Generation Gap

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 10:42 am

We get bombarded by these little digital snapshots of life.

Many of them have spelling mistakes, obviously unintended double meanings in different cultures, if not subtle political messages drilled into them.

Like me, you have probably had enough of these little messages in a square … but some of them can be quite funny, too.

It occurs to me, that we have seen this style of communication in history.

Amongst the political confusion of any age there is undercurrent of social dialogue, such as nursery rhymes, which are very politically charged verses if you relate them to the time frame of their origins.

Then, (more…)

Sun 24th March 2019

Youth Suicide in New Zealand

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 12:07 pm

Youth suicide became a dirty word on this site when the country’s political element decided to use these tragedies to deflect attention from the 50 or so casualties each month who are mostly adult men. That was following their attempts to belittle male deaths by turning attention to female attempts or threats of suicide or self-harm.

This on-going battle for recognition of male suicide and it’s long history is briefly discussed in a previous post The Suicide Debate when the death of Greg Boyed disturbed the delicate peace of our political and media manipulation.

Like any dishonesty you never know when the light is going to shine in a dark hole and I am sure I’m not the only one who has been asking themselves where does this go from here?

I’m sure every mother has asked the question; (more…)

Sat 23rd March 2019

Petition against the feminist author Clementine Ford

Filed under: General — Jay Zane @ 3:49 pm

I am sure many here know her very well. Clementine Ford

Petition link here

Please sign and share …. it will take only seconds. 300 signatures were done overnight.

Tue 19th March 2019


Filed under: General — Downunder @ 12:09 pm

In a previous post CGTOW that post considers a point of view that I assume the majority of readers would relate to.

If that was one end of the piece string what would be at the other. I’m not sure myself, so I’m going to pull out a slice of creative writing as starting point.

The other day I read an article (more…)

Sun 17th March 2019

The Christchurch Mosque Massacre and Gun Laws

Filed under: General,Law & Courts — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 12:28 pm

Some comment is deserved following the horrific Christchurch attack last Friday. Our deep sorrow and sympathy go out to those injured, the families of those killed and all others traumatized in ripple effect. (more…)

Fri 15th March 2019


Filed under: Events,General,Law & Courts — mama @ 12:56 pm

Facilitated by Frank Hicks, Self Litigant and Parental Disputes Coach and Cheryl Simpson, Senior Associate Lawyer.

WORKSHOP: Rangitoto #04SLNG
DATE: Saturday 13 April 2019
TIME: 9:00 am to 3:00 pm
ADDRESS: 2 Osterley Way, Manukau, Auckland
VENUE: Ngahere Commumities
CONTACT: for registration form
COST: Admission by Koha

Light refreshments provided for Morning and Afternoon Tea.
Pay and Display parking across from Venue.

Men and Climate Change

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 10:34 am

The news is too distressing today, and it’s Friday.

And then I saw this, in relation to our ‘children’s climate change protest’:

John McLeod



Maybe it’s time 16 yr olds got the vote. They are informed and it’s their future. We haven’t done that well.

The merchant of doom.

‘We’ … us men? The collective civilization of the world?

Who is it exactly, (more…)

Thu 14th March 2019


Filed under: General — Downunder @ 11:22 am

This recent post MGTOW is a review of Men Going Their Own Way and how that might be now in New Zealand. The acronym only matters to those that write about the subject or those that relate to it. I’m creating a new acronym here but I’ll get to that shortly.

First let’s go back to the time when baby-boomers were of an age to start a family. It was a time of change when some women rather than leaving their career to care for a household and family were looking at other options. It was the age of the nuclear family. Mum, Dad, and two kids. (When our survival rate was considered to be 2.3 children)

It was the age of the totally planned lifestyle. These are your options for this. House ownership, life assurance, retirement funds, most of which was still done on a face to face basis. A lot has changed, and much like MGTOW, only those that relate to the change might write about this.

It was a chance encounter that made me consider this (more…)

Wed 13th March 2019

The Death of Feminism

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 12:00 pm

Feminism does not like being confronted by facts or reality. Objectivity and truth, without debating the specifics are the realm of progress and unfortunately justice when things don’t go quite right … we’re not perfect.

Recently however there’s been a bit of chaos around the place.

This mish-mash of Intersectional Feminism and Identity Politics has caused confusion amongst their ranks. They’re arguing over the ideological meaning of their own ism. This is good, as a great number of women from different perspectives are shaking their heads and objecting to the profound stupidity. I don’t know about you, but I was more than a little amused by the idea of becoming competent in this stupity in order to defeat it.

I’m not surprised (more…)

Tue 12th March 2019

Bunny-Boilers Built by the Family Court

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 11:14 am

It was shortly after separation and free counselling was available through the Family Court in those days. Up to six free sessions but this is at end of last century, so, what happens now – I’m not up to date with the latest on what’s available.

The counsellors were a couple, running their own independent business. I met him, a quiet fellow, marginally older, and he owned that professional aloofness that they hide behind, but with the acumen of a plate glass window. (Slightly (more…)

Hygiene In Public

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 3:08 am

I walked into the toilets and there was this old guy washing his dick in the handbasin.

It had been mentioned to me a couple of days before that there was an old guy using the toilets as his washroom but I didn’t click that it was the tidy old man that pulled up in his tidy little car and headed to the toilets with a fluffy white bundle.

His little (more…)

Mon 11th March 2019

Dad Jokes

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 1:36 pm

I was reminded of this today when a guy told me a joke.

Jamaica $2.30
Babados $2.40
St Kitts $2.50

Naturally I had to ask, what’s this about?

“The (more…)

Thu 7th March 2019

Psuedo Academics teaching hands on skills…

Filed under: Boys / Youth / Education,General,Men's Health — mama @ 1:42 pm

There is no doubt people at the top of some of the ‘official’ apprenticeship schemes get paid handsomely, i am sure they do a good job.
Although there is an aspect of being “out of date”,… the, pathetic still, wage, paid to an apprentice in his time, a bugbear of mine.
However handing over to the failing numbered Polytechnic is surely to be seen to be radical , and that is putting it nicely.

You would have thought the government would first have spoken in length to the industry leaders and shakers, this is not how to do business, this is a girl hit, but might make money sense, maybe the tax groupie uncovered stuff.

Who knows, I’m not feelin’ the

MGTOW Review

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 1:21 pm

Feminism hasn’t been a consistent beast – it’s evolved through various stages to the now unfathomable Intersectional Feminism .

Identity Politics, likewise has changed its definition to its current state of ambiguity.

So, in a similar way it’s fair to expect MGTOW (Men Going Their Own Way) to follow a similar pattern.

When the idea of MGTOW became (more…)

Archeological digs on men…

Filed under: General — mama @ 10:30 am

Okay, we love them, we love what they created, who they were, they created history, lauded by many.

The times, their time, threw them up and into the public arena.

No one knew whether or not they were perfect or flawed but one thing for sure is that they were put on a pedestal, their necks were up and out and precariously poised.

The higher they are the hardest they fall.

The , perfect?, people who are (more…)

Wed 6th March 2019

Dancing With The Black Dog

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 1:42 pm

Link to Purchase

In my wander through the net today, I found a post on this little character.

This text is copied from the purchase site linked to above.

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You don’t have to be suffering from anxiety or depression yourself in order to wear or display the dancing black dog symbol, because doing so does not mean you are saying “I suffer from anxiety or depression”. Rather, it means you are saying “it’s ok to say if you don’t feel ok” to anyone around you who may be suffering from anxiety or depression. As many as one in four people suffer in silence from depression or anxiety. Sometimes they come across as the happiest person in the room, yet on the inside they are in fact the loneliest.

Postage is free on all orders for lapel pins, badges and stickers – to anywhere in the world.

It is not a NZ promotion but may be of interest to some readers.

Mon 4th March 2019

Protection Orders and how much Protection do they offer with digital age

Filed under: General — palmie @ 2:46 pm

Hi Everyone and have just joined as looking for advise regarding protection orders.

After a 2 day hearing I got a Protection Order against my ex wife which covers my new Fiancée, 2 children in my care aged 12 & 10 & myself. Before this my ex had been very aggressive which resulted in a number of attacks against my partner & myself with the final one been assault charges laid against her for attacking myself.

After this event and waiting for (more…)

Thu 28th February 2019

Men’s Summit 2019 !

Filed under: Boys / Youth / Education,Gender Politics,General — Ministry of Men's Affairs @ 10:11 am


From the Co-ordinators – Men’s Summit

Men’s Summit Goes South

The New Zealand Men’s Summit 2019 is going south this year to Otago University Rugby clubrooms in Dunedin on Friday 12 April.

It’s time to recognise the male contribution to society as Men Matter Too.

Following successful Men’s Summits in Christchurch, Wellington and Auckland, the move to Dunedin is a great opportunity to broaden your men’s network and spend time in the deep South.

Whether you (more…)

Wed 27th February 2019

Domestic Bliss

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 12:26 pm

Anyone who has been in a long term relationship understands the complications, and the sometimes delicate peace.

There is, what we now call the flick-chick – expect an unpredictable launch at any time.

Now, any good MGTOW will tell you, the first time it happens, RUN! … and don’t look back!

There’s other more delicate versions. Examples you say? Well, (more…)

Tue 26th February 2019

Battle Dress

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 11:48 am

There’s something that bothers me about this picture but what bothers me more is that I can’t work out what it is, that bothers me.

It’s a female in front of a few guys, no big deal. If it was (more…)


Filed under: General — Downunder @ 10:16 am

Recently I wrote this post on the rising Homeless.

It only took a few days and I was standing by my vehicle when a security guard drove slowly past me, leaning out the window, yelling in a very sarcastically polite voice, “Hello. How are you today.”

Didn’t take long to join the dots, did it, and the news to get back to me but that’s small minded New Zealand, at its best.

More recently the news broke, (more…)

Thu 21st February 2019

Update on Identity Politics

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 11:29 am

Identity Politics. I can’t remember where I first encountered this but regardless I’ve always been a bit ho-hum, disinterested, who can be bothered with that stuff. And I’m sure a lot of us feel the same – can’t we just have our live’s back. And then there’s another lot of us who get all technical and boring and it takes a lot of effort to make sense of what we’re on about.

I’m going to do the impossible (more…)

Tue 19th February 2019

Concerning Stuff

Filed under: General — Downunder @ 11:54 am

Haven’t we all been concerned about Stuff, the news site, Stuff, that is?

Or frustrated, annoyed, at the very least?

We’ve even had few scraps here about how to confront the beast.

About 15 years ago I was sitting in a café in Ponsonby discussing (more…)

Mon 18th February 2019

How to scam the NZ immigration system if you are a woman

Filed under: Domestic Violence,Gender Politics,Law & Courts — JohnPotter @ 8:43 pm

A letter via the MENZ contact form. A lesson on how to use WordPress anonymously is probably not what this man needs right now, so I’m posting this on his behalf in the hope he might gain some useful response.

His letter is one of the clearest expositions of how women on temporary visas are recruited and supported to scam the immigration system by using Domestic Violence Act as a weapon against fathers.

This guy made at least two very bad decisions; firstly to respond to his wife’s provocations with violence, and secondly to threaten to kill himself with a knife when faced with arrest. But is this a sufficient reason for a little girl to loose her father forever, which I predict is the most likely outcome of this case?

I’ve added paragraphs to make it more readable, and [redacted] anything that might identify him. Otherwise the words are his.

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